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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by drozycki »

jorvi wrote: post #322
BitwiseFool wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jony Ive is no longer working at Apple and he was the God-King of industrial design. I suspect the MagSafe charger disappeared because of his efforts to make USB-C the one cable to rule them all. But after all the trouble with dongles and the butterfly keyboards I suspect more sensible heads have taken over and we can have these nice things again.

I don't understand why, with Apple's design chops you'd say they would be able to make a USB-C Magsafe hybrid. Hell, I can fantasize about one right now: make a specialized Apple USB-C charger cable with a plug a teensy bit smaller than standard USB-C, then magnetize the encasing of the plug. In addition, the furthest left and right side USB-C ports on the MacBook should be magnetic where this encasing would touch th…

Something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Adapter-iSkey-Transfer-Compa...

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by slantyyz »

filleduchaos wrote: post #376
markdog12 wrote: post #352

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Pretty sure you want more pixels, too. And if they announced a 4K webcam, it'd be amazing and everyone would be raving about it.

If they announced a 4K webcam I would immediately restrict it to 1080p. Why on earth would I want one?

A lot of Youtubers like using 4K (or higher) cameras because the resulting video looks better at 1080p.

I would think the M1s are more than fast enough to do a nice job downsampling in real time from 4K to 1080p.

Also, the M1s are fast enough to be someone's main computer for a long, long time. 4K future proofs your system a little more.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by mort96 »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #413
mort96 wrote: post #388

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I mean, now your argument has changed from "most peripherals use bluetooth so it doesn't matter" to "most peripherals use USB-A, but many Apple users will nonetheless tolerate the lack of USB-A on their desktops". I can't really argue against that, and maybe it's correct. EDIT: Just to respond to the "gamers and people who code are in a different class" thing: I went to a different store which is more general, went t…

I think we mostly agree, we're just splitting hairs over the word "use". I'd say my mouse "uses" bluetooth instead of USB, even though it does still technically "use" USB as well to charge, albeit very infrequently. I am surprised that most peripherals do still use USB-A to charge, and my argument did change to reflect that new information.

I'm not talking about devices which use USB-A to charge, I counted all peripherals which have the capability to connect via Bluetooth in any form in the "Bluetooth" category. If I counted every peripheral which comes with a USB-A charging cable as a peripheral which requires USB-A, the numbers would look even more bleak.

The only keyboards I counted as requiring USB-A are ones which are wired with a USB-A cable, and ones which are wireless but only have the ability to use an RF receiver dongle such as the logitech unifying receiver. Your mouse would be counted in the "Bluetooth" category.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by szhu »

stuart78 wrote: post #410

I love the new look, but having the audio jack on the side is kind of insane. I realize that it is not deep enough for the full length of the connector, but the idea of having a cord dangling off the side 24/7 for those or us who use external speakers is unwelcome. But I’m waiting for a 27 or 30” model anyway...

The iMac is an all-in-one, so I don't think many people will be adding their own speakers (might as well get a Mac Mini at that point). I think most users will use the jack for wired headphones, in which case having it on the side makes it easier to access.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by phire »

codezero wrote: post #412
theshrike79 wrote: post #390

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> I'd like 27 inches of screen, at least 16GB of ram, but preferably 32 All this will come with the M2 chip either in the fall lineup or next year. Same time as the 16" MBP will transfer from Intel to M-series.

Curious to see how this plays out. I would have expected apple to just extend the M1 a little longer rather than jumping to M2 since the M1 is still pretty limited in its robustness. I don't care what they call it, but I'll buy one :)

I don't think we will see an M2 chip before next year. It's rumoured to be on 4nm and yeilds will be highly problematic to push a 4nm product out that soon.

I think Apple will try to stick to a proper one year cadence for the M1, M2, M3 line, just like they have successfully done for years with their A series.

But we might still see an "M1X" this year. An M1 with 6 or 8 big firestorm cores.

Hard to tell. Apple might be planning to skip over the larger M1 in favor of putting the remaining products directly onto the M2 generation.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

jorvi wrote: post #322
BitwiseFool wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jony Ive is no longer working at Apple and he was the God-King of industrial design. I suspect the MagSafe charger disappeared because of his efforts to make USB-C the one cable to rule them all. But after all the trouble with dongles and the butterfly keyboards I suspect more sensible heads have taken over and we can have these nice things again.

I don't understand why, with Apple's design chops you'd say they would be able to make a USB-C Magsafe hybrid. Hell, I can fantasize about one right now: make a specialized Apple USB-C charger cable with a plug a teensy bit smaller than standard USB-C, then magnetize the encasing of the plug. In addition, the furthest left and right side USB-C ports on the MacBook should be magnetic where this encasing would touch th…

there are magsafe Usb-C cables. [1] I owned one similar, worked ok but itself was a bad quality, but I'm pretty sure that good quality cables like this are very possible.

[1]: https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-MacBook-Charging-Braided-Dev...

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by insert_coin »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #183
insert_coin wrote: post #153

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Funny the current iMac has none of those problems. And wasn’t the M1 supposed to be so efficient minimal cooling and power were required?

Apple's site says the power adapter is 143W, that's gonna be pretty toasty. The 4.5k display is probably the majority of that though.

Again, current iMacs don't seem bother by that.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by phire »

dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

I suspect it's purely there for style reasons.

Even without the logo, it makes the design more recognizable as a iMac from the front. Apple doesn't want people to mistake it for a regular old monitor.

Especially when iMacs end up in movies and tv shows.

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