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Post by narrator »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #373
narrator wrote: post #285

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This is why you run your environment on Linux and MacOS in Docker, so you don't have these screwy deployment issues caused by MacOs vs Linux issues.

Developing in macOS against Docker is beyond painful. 10-100x build times is not a reasonable cost for platform compat.

With some configuration you can map folders into drives on Docker. You can just build on MacOS and restart the app server in the container. I was using NodeJS though, so I'm not dealing with libc and syscall incompatibilities and such.

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Post by samus »

aluminussoma wrote: post #122
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #80

A major incentive for the US government to get involved is touched on. Not only is Taiwan 'just off the coast' from China, China is coming for it and intends to assimilate Taiwan back into China just as Hong Kong and Macau have been. At that point, the only sustainable leverage the rest of the world would have in chip technology would be ASML.

It is thought provoking to think that the USA's interest in Taiwan is more about protecting TMSC than protecting a democratic state in East Asia. By this line of thinking, building capacity in Arizona, or anywhere outside Taiwan, is good for TMSC and for the USA but weakens Taiwan.

Taiwan is also stategically important because it guards access from the Pacific to China and back. To the north there is Japan and South Korea (US allies), and to the south there are Vietnam and the Philippines, who already feel the pressure of the expansion of China's influence (Chinese military bases in the South China sea), and are thus likely to side with the US in the future. Right now, China is sorta contained, but if the CCP can reassert itself on Taiwan, the situation will flip and the CCP will have full control about access to the mainland from the sea, and can freely access the Pacific.

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Post by yourapostasy »

hyper_reality wrote: post #322
yourapostasy wrote: post #83

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It was more economics and political policy wonks, economists and politicians in general, who didn't just ask that question, but thrust forth the prescriptive rhetoric through a large grid of trade agreements, "Globalism is here to stay! Get over it! Comparative Advantage!" This is only the first in a long, expensive series of lessons these people will be taught by reality in the coming decades. I'm guessing this kind…

This was very nicely expressed, I would read a book in this style! By the way, I'm not sure the hnchat.com service linked in your profile works any more?

Thanks. I'm not like that IRL face to face except for a very small subset of close friends. If you like that kind of high information rate, discursive exploration, then you'd probably like or are already hanging around the folks at dredmorbius' various lairs, what used to be slatestarcodex, and gwern.net as jumping off points. I still hold wan hope the Net will lead to the kind of introspection writing tends to encourage. Thanks for letting me know hnchat is gone. I moved to protonmail.ch and updated my HN profile appropriately.

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Post by yourapostasy »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #295
yourapostasy wrote: post #231

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Thanks for introducing me to that, it was enjoyable to listen to Allen. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVGoY9gom50

My pleasure :) But to my chagrin, I just realized that the reading cadence I had in mind wasn't Allen Ginsberg's, but instead Jack Kerouac's. [0] [0] https://youtu.be/3LLpNKo09Xk?t=197

Ha, that Beat Generation background music really sets the tone.

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mulmen wrote: post #406
interpol_p wrote: post #404

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I don't have a problem with using the smaller MacBook Air 13" screen for development (I upgraded from a 15" MBP) I'm not a huge Mail user so I'm not up-to-speed on keyboard shortcuts. But I was able to navigate with the keyboard easily — I hit tab to focus on the correct list then use the up/down arrows to select the inbox or message (your 4/5/6). After hitting Cmd+W both Cmd+0 or Cmd+1 bring the Mail window back for…

Yes but those shortcuts are inconsistent. Cmd 1 does not bring back Messages for example. I have to press tab several times in Mail to figure out where I am in Big Sur where in Catalina the selection is always highlighted. You can’t use the keyboard to change mailboxes in Big Sur as far as I can tell. There’s no clear “language” to the shortcuts. You’d have more usable space with Catalina on that 13” screen. It was a…

Both Messages and Mail both use Cmd+0 to bring the message viewer to the front. That's what the shortcut is listed as in the Window menu. Same with Calendar if you close the main calendar window

Messages does not have great keyboard navigation — I can't tab around like I can in Mail. I am putting this down to the fact it is a Catalyst app and they are a bit sloppy with consistency (not necessarily a Big Sur thing, as these were on Catalina)

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

yourapostasy wrote: post #424
DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #295

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My pleasure :) But to my chagrin, I just realized that the reading cadence I had in mind wasn't Allen Ginsberg's, but instead Jack Kerouac's. [0] [0] https://youtu.be/3LLpNKo09Xk?t=197

Ha, that Beat Generation background music really sets the tone.

Are you referring to the music that's (mostly?) Steve Allen's piano playing? Yeah, totally.

I also never knew that Steve Allen was so good at piano. Before watching that video, all I knew about him was that he'd had a popular TV show.

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Post by john_alan »

astrange wrote: post #398
john_alan wrote: post #394

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The micro-kernel design on macOS has benefits over Linux's monolithic kernel. You also get POSIX compliance.

macOS doesn't have a microkernel, but it does have userland drivers and it's pretty good at being macOS/iOS. Linux's oom-killer doesn't work nearly as well as jetsam.

macOS has a Hybrid kernel with a decent portion being micro components I thought?

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Post by astrange »

john_alan wrote: post #427
astrange wrote: post #398

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macOS doesn't have a microkernel, but it does have userland drivers and it's pretty good at being macOS/iOS. Linux's oom-killer doesn't work nearly as well as jetsam.

macOS has a Hybrid kernel with a decent portion being micro components I thought?

Mach started as a microkernel, but when they jammed together Mach and BSD they put it in the same process so it's not really separated anymore.

Recently there are some hypervisor-like things for security, and more things have been moving to userland instead of being kexts. I'd still say it's less of a microkernel than Linux since it doesn't have FUSE.

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Post by mulmen »

interpol_p wrote: post #425
mulmen wrote: post #406

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Yes but those shortcuts are inconsistent. Cmd 1 does not bring back Messages for example. I have to press tab several times in Mail to figure out where I am in Big Sur where in Catalina the selection is always highlighted. You can’t use the keyboard to change mailboxes in Big Sur as far as I can tell. There’s no clear “language” to the shortcuts. You’d have more usable space with Catalina on that 13” screen. It was a…

Both Messages and Mail both use Cmd+0 to bring the message viewer to the front. That's what the shortcut is listed as in the Window menu. Same with Calendar if you close the main calendar window Messages does not have great keyboard navigation — I can't tab around like I can in Mail. I am putting this down to the fact it is a Catalyst app and they are a bit sloppy with consistency (not necessarily a Big Sur thing, as…

You’re right about Messages vs Mail.

But in Catalina Cmd-1 selects the inbox and full sidebar navigation including between accounts is possible with arrow keys. Nested lists can expand and collapse with left and right.

In Big Sur Cmd-1 just reopens the window with no selection. In addition you cannot navigate the full sidebar with arrow keys.

Combine this with the lack of visual indication of your selection and keyboard navigation becomes a struggle.

I have not found a UI improvement in Big Sur.

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Post by visceral »

WoodenChair wrote: post #110

The thing about all of these articles analyzing Intel's problems is that nobody really knows the details of Intel's "problems" because it comes down to just one "problem" that we have no insight into: node size. What failures happened in Intel's engineering/engineering management of its fabs that led to it getting stuck at 14 nm? Only the people in charge of Intel's fabs know exactly what went wrong, and to my knowle…

I think it's pretty clear from the article what happened. They didn't have the capital (stemming from a lack of foresight and incentives) to invest in these fabs, relative to their competition.

If you look at this from an engineering standpoint, I think you'll miss the forest for the trees. From a business and strategy standpoint, this was classic case of disruption. Dominant player, Intel, was making tons of money on x86 and missed mobile opportunity. TSMC and Samsung seized on the opportunity to manufacture these chips when Intel wouldn't. As a result, they had more money to build/invest in research to build better fabs, which could be funded by the many customers buying mobile chips. Intel, being the only customer of their fabs, would only have money to improve their fabs if they sold more x86 chips (which were stagnating). By this time, it was too late.

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