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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by raarts »

killjoywashere wrote: post #318
ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

Imagine a USB-C compliant version of MagSafe. That would be awesome. not sure if the physics work out (can you efficiently push that many bits through a magnet like that?)

Yes, they exist and I use it. Works quite well.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by woodwireandfood »

CameronNemo wrote: post #363
woodwireandfood wrote: post #302

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I got one recently. Haven't had it for long enough to see wear issues, but I'm surprised how well it's worked. Biggest annoyance is that it's sensitive to being jostled. When it was just power, that didn't matter so much, but when it's connected to my docking station, it's the same as yanking the cable. It's staying, for now, but I have to be careful moving things around on my desk. Edit to address sibling concern: I…

Would really appreciate a link. Have been looking at magnetic USB C connectors but some look shady/bad.

Wanted to wait until this dropped off the front page out of respect for chx's concerns.

In that vein, let me say that I have neither the skills nor the equipment to evaluate any of chx's technical concerns. The best I can say is that it seems to do what I want (pass power and TB3 with a magnetic coupling), and there haven't been any symptoms of problems that I've been able to see. Yet. I'm now a little worried, though :|

The 24-pin one here is what I'm using: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0896QK2J5

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by na85 »

revscat wrote: post #311
breakfastduck wrote: post #230

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The giant trackpad is one of the most appealing features of the machine to me and many others.

You can see the point though, right? I’m personally ok with the trackpad, but compare it with the “nipple” from the old IBM laptops. You could scan across the entire screen with the barest movement of your finger. The minimalism in that design was impressive,

The trackpoint/nipple was awful. It's fetishized now because of anti-apple counterculture but it's a truly horrid pointing device that was only ever popular because early trackpads were that much worse.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by SomeHacker44 »

If true, it may be too little, too late for me - and no mention of going back to a good pre-butterfly keyboard either. I will be looking for a nice OLED Windows computer about then (3Q21), with user replaceable RAM and M.2 SSDs, Thunderbolt 4 and maybe a small GPU for a bit of light ML. I already switched from an iPhone and have stopped upgrading my MBPs above 10.14.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by hughmcc »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #424

If true, it may be too little, too late for me - and no mention of going back to a good pre-butterfly keyboard either. I will be looking for a nice OLED Windows computer about then (3Q21), with user replaceable RAM and M.2 SSDs, Thunderbolt 4 and maybe a small GPU for a bit of light ML. I already switched from an iPhone and have stopped upgrading my MBPs above 10.14.

In my experience the new Magic Keyboard with scissor switches is just as good as, if not better than, the old pre-butterfly keyboards.

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Post by ghaff »

RedShift1 wrote: post #416
ghaff wrote: post #368

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That works for a while so long as it's not fraying near the Magsafe connector itself. I eventually threw out my older charger because there was more electrical tape than original coating. My current one started deteriorating right at the connector so it's patched up with epoxy paste to provide strain relief. I tend to agree that Apple isn't going to retreat on USB-C. That just doesn't make a lot of sense. And whateve…

I just bought my first macbook, a 2015 model. Looking at the charger, the connection with the magsafe connector looks ok (but definitely weaker than regular barrel jacks), but it seems to me that people get the tendency to unplug it by pulling the cable instead of pulling on the connector. Perhaps that's why they deteriorate rapidly?

I'm sure people do at least now and then. I almost certainly have--are at least I'm not super careful. And I know mine does get accidentally yanked out every now and then.

And I find the covering of the whole cord tends to deteriorate over time, which isn't strain related.

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Post by sgerenser »

dtwest wrote: post #345
ardy42 wrote: post #320

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> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

I love the design of the MagSafe chargers, you point out a great advantage of them, but sadly they aren't durable. And like the parent comment said, they are expensive. I'm on my second for my current laptop and it's frayed on the end so I'm soon to be on my third. Hopefully a next iteration of MagSafe takes this issue more seriously.

I have a couple MagSafe chargers (for the 15 inch Pro) sitting in a drawer with no Mac that can use them. I can’t be bothered to sell them on eBay, I’d be happy to pass them on if you cover shipping.

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Post by dylan604 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #409
dylan604 wrote: post #338

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And yet, the person I replied to in 2021 is still complaining about the size of a right-click area of the track pad. It may be an old joke style (so is saying a year in the past is calling), but it is still valid.

Yeah, of course, you can still find shitty laptops with these issues if you look in the discount bin at Wallmart but for a fair comparison, most new laptops in the MacBook price range (1000+ Euros) don't have touchpads with segmented zones anymore like the ones you're describing.

There you have it. If it doesn't exist on the hardware "I'm" using now, then it's not a problem that should be discussed. I'm Chuck Norris, and I round house kick to the head any laptop that doesn't meet my certifications.

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Post by ksec »

square_usual wrote: post #38

I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

He did specifically mention high power charging on Non-USB C.

One of the problem with High Power, USB-C charging is the higher probability of frying the MacBook. As it has been since post 2015 MacBook Pro. From a reliability stand point this isn't any good at all. The insane amount of MacBook Pro with this problem on Louis Rossmann channel

Not all USB-C Cable are capable of charging up to 100W, most are only 28W. You need specific 100W, thicker cable to charge it. Of course HN have no problem with this but majority of people will charge it with whatever USB-C cable they have lying around. i.e Smartphone low power cable.

But HN seems to value charging everything with USB-C over everything else. And seems to take a world view anyone who dont know enough about USB-C cable or do not buy all USB-C High Power Cable as "mis-informed" if I had to word it politely.

>And the sides of this thing are pretty flat and not curved.

He meant the top and the bottom. Currently being slightly curved on the lip and the bottom edge of the machine.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

dylan604 wrote: post #428
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #409

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Yeah, of course, you can still find shitty laptops with these issues if you look in the discount bin at Wallmart but for a fair comparison, most new laptops in the MacBook price range (1000+ Euros) don't have touchpads with segmented zones anymore like the ones you're describing.

There you have it. If it doesn't exist on the hardware "I'm" using now, then it's not a problem that should be discussed. I'm Chuck Norris, and I round house kick to the head any laptop that doesn't meet my certifications.

Bruh.
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