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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

puranjay wrote: post #295
bsd44 wrote: post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

20 second unskippable ads about cat food (I don't have a cat) to watch a 1 minute video. No thanks YouTube!

It's worse when you are trying to put a soothing music to put your baby to sleep and it starts with a loud ad which wakes her up. Or now that she is a toddler, her nursery rhyme videos have political campaign ads in the middle of the song.

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Post by renewiltord »

domano wrote: post #283
gonehome wrote: post #273

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YouTube premium is great - I wish I could pay for ad free Twitter. Being able to pay for a service without ads is worth it. Users complaining about a free ad subsidized service come across as unreasonable to me (and maybe a little entitled).

I am happy with ads, but you probably have never been hit by a 30 min sponsored video at the beginning of a youtube video. The ads turn the whole watching experience into a remote-searching minigame. I'd much rather have unskippable, but reasonably long ads.

How does this comment make sense as a reply? Obviously he has never been hit by one of those because he pays for Youtube and gets the ad free version. Same as me.

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Post by renewiltord »

Retric wrote: post #222
0-_-0 wrote: post #51

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Should the products of dead people not be monetizable? How about selling a Van Gogh painting?

If you own it sure. However, if you’re suddenly changing contracts after the fact that’s just theft. What if a backblaze or other backup service just decided it the copyright on all uploaded files after 1 month of non payment and started selling people’s home movies as stock footage?

Ah I see. It's a rules thing. In that case it's fine. The ToS explicitly allow this after all. So you aren't really changing things outside of what's allowed.

This is like when you put into a contract "Party A may withdraw from this contract at any point" and then you withdraw at some point. That's playing by the rules.

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Post by thdrdt »

It is strange. I noticed all the ads lately, sometimes even 2 in a row.

But thinking about it I can't remember a single ad. Today more and more people have an ad filter in their head. This means that Google earns a lot of money from ads that have a lot of exposure but almost zero effect.

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Post by mrguyorama »

MereInterest wrote: post #256
paulryanrogers wrote: post #238

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YT Premium still supports creators while Ublock Origin denies creators one of the easiest ways to be compensated for their work. That's a pretty big difference.

True, though most of the videos I watch these days either have explicit sponsor mentions, or I support though patreon. My general feel on adblock is that it is a reasonable step against an abusive advertising industry. That it harms creators is the side effect of the advertising industry's overreach, and is not a moral fault of the end user for acting in self-defense.

Nevermind the fact that for the vast majority of creators, their advertising revenue is 100% up to the whims of some bullshit black box "AI" algorithm on whether they are worthy of money they earned or not.

Most of the valuable youtube creators don't care much about their ad revenue and prefer to curate out of band sponsorships and patreon. And if I wanted to actually support them, I'd invest in them through patreon, not watch an atrocious ad that will likely give them 30% of 5 cents

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Post by jeromenerf »

zwkrt wrote: post #377
darrylb42 wrote: post #341

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YouTube premium gets rid of all the ads, unless creators have embedded them in the video. There is lots of good content for toddlers on YouTube, but it is unwatchable with ads. I watch more myself now all the ads are gone, plus you get youtube music, not as good as spotify but good enough.

I can't believe that you actually decided to be held hostage by google and pay them to remove content that they would otherwise only put in front of you if you were looking. Its like paying a restaurant not to harass you and then going to it when you could just go to the restaurant next door without the protection fee. There is also a lot of good content for toddlers IRL.

Paying for content instead of being fed ads doesn’t seem unbelievable to me.

On the other hand, the method employed by YouTube is just akin to its contents. 90% BS.

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Post by suyash »

nbzso wrote: post #198

This makes me reconsider Vimeo as a video platform. This year I decided to invest my free time in creating two channels for Painting(art in general) and Drawing (design focused), all is planned and tested and the only thing left on the table is video platform. YouTube as a platform rewards "dopamine reaction", controversy topics, kick-bait thumbnails, short form format and so on. Yes, there is a ton of good stuff tha…

Vimeo is well known in design and art community for higher quality content, unfortunately it lacks the large viewrship base that YT has.

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Post by tsycho »

pletsch wrote: post #368
darrylb42 wrote: post #341

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YouTube premium gets rid of all the ads, unless creators have embedded them in the video. There is lots of good content for toddlers on YouTube, but it is unwatchable with ads. I watch more myself now all the ads are gone, plus you get youtube music, not as good as spotify but good enough.

How is the mobile experience for YT Music? Looking at switching, I imagine they have the desktop experience down. I love Spotify, but I can't imagine a worse experience outside of their mobile app. The web player was nice but fails to load music two-three times per listening session (to be fair, they are usually 5-8hrs), the desktop application is slow, clunky, and will regularly not play music I have downloaded.

I hated it initially, but am fine with it now.

When YTM is better than GPM:

1/ Auto-created playlists, especially after you just search for a song and hit play. On GPM, it would play different covers on the same song (basically all the search results) by default, unless you started a radio, which is a cool concept but was hit and miss in practice. On YTM, it continues with similar songs, and I have liked their selection so far.

2/ The library seems to have increased; I guess they have access to more songs that were YT exclusive for some reason.

3/ While I normally never use video mode on YTM, but once in a while for a cool song, it's nice to be able to seamlessly switch to video and cast to my TV.

On the cons side, I don't like the playlist management and home screen UI (which is what I hated initially), but it's not bothering me much anymore now that I am getting used to it I guess.

Initially, I had planned to just cancel the subscription, but held on because using YouTube with ads was just plain intolerable. I get reminded of this everytime I open a Youtube link on my work account Chrome profile by mistake.

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Post by renewiltord »

hadrien01 wrote: post #43
jrootabega wrote: post #30

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Thereby Making it Worse for Everyone Else. Indiscriminate measures don't provide helpful information. Support videos that have acceptable ads. Don't support ones that don't. Downvote them, comment, and, most importantly, be willing not to watch them, ever. YouTube can learn, much like a dog, as long as the feedback is clear and swift

We already support videos that have acceptable ads: not YouTube ads, but in-video ads. The creator is paid directly by the advertiser with no middle-man, the user is not tracked and can easily skip them, and personally I prefer these ads instead of unskippable TV-like commercials .

Same here. I usually just shoplift at the retail store and then send the wholesale price to the wholesaler. Not a big fan of middlemen.

It's a pretty good back around not having a Costco account.

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