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One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by srtjstjsj »

mcv wrote: post #221
belorn wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is "I request every one of my followers to make 20 spam PRs so at least 4 sit for more than a week" The same translation of: "Send PR to repo with little activity, it'll increase the chances that it'll sit for 7 days. The lesser known a repo is the better, 4 out 20 is doable" It is times like this that a third translation would be nice, preferable with a bit more context around the "4 out 20" quote.

It's also bad from Hacktoberfest that they reward unmerged PRs. It would be better if they only rewarded PRs that are actually accepted or at least do something meaningful.

If the DO team weren't completely self-serving anti-socials, they'd have set it up to spend 5 seconds eyeballing each PR before sending out a t-shirt, and warning people that only good PRs would count, and giving a few examples from past years.

Or just direct newbies to a bunch of volunteer/sample repos dedicated to helping newbies learn the system, and maybe offer a competitive higher tier of prizes for PRs nominated by repo owned and chosen by DO.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

zorbash wrote: post #369
_dbdw wrote: post #306

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"Gaming the system" is also a cultural thing in Greece. In fact, it's so expected that you are perceived to be either out of the loop or a fool for not going the extra mile. I broke friendships with people who claimed that "it's all subjective at the end of the day" whenever I was raising ethical/moral concerns. Imagine not being able to provide a reasonable argument to justify your actions, beyond of "because I'm al…

I think you are conflating systemic corruption with culture. It's unfair to blame culture as the sole instigator of said corruption. You can tell it's not cultural by the way Greeks abroad are not known for "gaming the system".

You mean people like Aristotelis Onassis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle_Onassis

Aye, it's common knowledge in Greece that he came across his huge fortune by being a nice guy and never stepping over any lines, of law or ethics. True fact.

/s

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by mmmmmk »

VLM wrote: post #330
throw0101a wrote: post #292

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> If not I might as well do this and earn Rs. 100. In fact this attitude is cultivated from childhood in certain business class families. Don't let go of any opportunity of earning a profit, however small it might be. The Ferengi from Star Trek come to mind when I read this. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi * https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ferengi The Rules of Acquisition are always a fun read: * https:/…

General opinion for decades has been the Ferengi are specifically anti-Semitic stereotypes rather than generic Mediterranean-area stereotypes.

I forgot where I read it, but I believe Roddenberry modeled the Ferengi after New England traders in the 1800's.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by srtjstjsj »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #172
susam wrote: post #62

I received two pull requests for two projects on GitHub last night. I am the author of one and the maintainer of the other. At first, the pull requests did not make sense at all. One of them made minor changes to a README, e.g., changing "this book" to "the book". It was not fixing a typo or incorrect grammar. It was merely choosing a word different from the one I had chosen. In fact, I preferred "this book", so the…

I also received one pull request that I thought was spam, where the author made several nonsensical changes like changing "#Features" into "#Features:" in the README. Now it makes sense. I'll probably tell thank them for their contribution and point out a few ideas for things that would really help us, instead of merging this just for the sake of Hacktoberfest.

Don't waste your time. The people doing this don't know anything about programming.

There's no reason to ever look at or respond to PR from someone who doesn't at least have their own repo (or at least a fork of a repo) with non trivial commits (at least to a toy/learning project)

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by srtjstjsj »

neom wrote: post #37
Google234 wrote: post #12

The shitoberfest Twitter account is hilarious. https://mobile.twitter.com/shitoberfest

You know, as one of the people who sat in a room with my colleagues, listening them talk about the hours and hour of thinking they had done around how to contribute meaningfully to OSS, revising and revising till they landed on hacktoberfest, I don't find this hilarious in the least. I talked to many maintainers in the first few years of it's existence who truly benefited from the contributions. Nothing we ever did a…

Talking about how you get paid to pat yourself on the back isn't going to win the sympathy of people you mistreated. Now is the time for apologies and amends not tone-deaf whining about being held accountable by people who are actually giving freely of their time and IP.

Here's some constructive criticism: DO should send $20 to the donation box of every repo owner who got a spam PR.

And since you don't even work for DO but seem to like them: stop creating more bad PR for them by making embarassing comments in their name.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by higerordermap »

aniforprez wrote: post #301
avighnay wrote: post #270

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One more very Indian thing perhaps also is we like to gladly flog ourselves and jump at the chance of discrediting our people. We will start with "As an Indian" but end with "They" instead of "We"

I'm frankly kind of sick of the constant denigration and apologies being written slavishly to foreigners on behalf of all Indians by Indians. As an Indian, I accept there's a lot of cultural problems and crap in the country but to the degree that people will prostrate before the Western elite reminds me of our colonial days. Like, literally everything in that paragraph could be written about literally any part of the…

Slavishly? Eh? The comments also constantly remind how few talented people get lost in the haystack because of the noise. They are stating the reality.

> have some goddamn pride

We have seen how much damage pride has brought. If you still want to see

1) people without science knowledge claiming religious rituals have scientific reasons

2) people who don't know what linguistics is claiming Sanskrit is the first language

3) people without any knowledge of medicine heralding superiority of Ayurveda

Continue with your godamn pride.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by blaser-waffle »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #422
zorbash wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are conflating systemic corruption with culture. It's unfair to blame culture as the sole instigator of said corruption. You can tell it's not cultural by the way Greeks abroad are not known for "gaming the system".

You mean people like Aristotelis Onassis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle_Onassis Aye, it's common knowledge in Greece that he came across his huge fortune by being a nice guy and never stepping over any lines, of law or ethics. True fact. /s

The dude was a legendary briber.

Generally he was thought to be trustworthy if you cut a deal -- no matter how corrupt and shady the deal was -- but absolutely willing to bribe, coerce, threaten, and completely willing ignore regulations and rules.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

throw0101a wrote: post #410
propter_hoc wrote: post #389

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Yes I know some person came up with fictional alien species based on stereotypes or caricatures. In no way does that make it more okay to use those fictional alien species when discussing real people than it would be to stereotype or caricature people yourself. And it's not insightful to say "Hey, that story about Polish people reminds me of those scurrilous Romulans!"

> "Hey, that story about Polish people reminds me of those scurrilous Romulans!" Heh. You wanna guess where my ancestors come from? :)

:gasp: Romulus???

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

mjlee wrote: post #361
VLM wrote: post #330

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General opinion for decades has been the Ferengi are specifically anti-Semitic stereotypes rather than generic Mediterranean-area stereotypes.

As a Jew, I always just considered them space goblins...

So did I.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by higerordermap »

mst wrote: post #331
higerordermap wrote: post #23

This is not only kind of spam going on here. A twitter user mentioned that some youtubers are themselves creating assignment aggregation type repos, and encouraging their viewers to contribute some copy paste code to those repos and they approve the pull request. That's insane. I feel ashamed to say I am an Indian.

Reading a lot of these comments ... the number of indians making a point of calling out this bullshit on the part of their countrymen is honestly kind of awesome and I'm kinda proud of y'all. Too many countries' populations would be more likely to be reflexively defensive instead. Though I'm in england and grew up considering british indians' self deprecatory sense of humour something to aspire to, so ... I'm not goi…

Yeah pointing out what's wrong with a society which is focused on wrong metrics and gaming the system is wrong. And I have also pointed out it makes life harder for genuinely talented people.

You and your godamn pride.

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