Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

Post by pearjuice » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:49 PM UTC

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pearjuice wrote: post #99

For years, people have applauded the walled garden of Apple and this is the end result. Without flamethrower you wil not get out of it. The walls have to go down. They are probably beting on that by this charade the entire industry turns against Apple and a boycott ensues, leaving them no choice to change their margins (and other marketplaces will adjust accordingly or the angry mob comes for them). I doubt Epic stan…

ToS doesn't mean you can break federal antitrust laws.

Post by SXX » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:50 PM UTC

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Are the various cuts (both sale, and in-game) for each platform known, either informally or publicly?

Everyone is 30%, always has been Xbox, Playstation, Steam, Google, Apple, they're all 30%.

Post by brundolf » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:50 PM UTC

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It's important to note that you can still run unsigned Mac apps. Apple isn't preventing users from running a tool they want to run, it's just showing them a big scary warning and making them jump through some extra hoops. It's incredibly scummy and inappropriate, but I would put it more along the lines of an attack-ad than an outright ban. Edit: Now, one thing that isn't totally clear is whether or not devs who have…

The pop-up box you get when you try to run unsigned applications gives the user absolutely no hint as to how they can jump through those hoops to run the thing. You need to know what to google for to find the right magic incantation to enter into the macOS terminal. On Windows, at least, the “Run anyway” button is merely behind the “More information...” link.

Post by throwaw4y-plate » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:51 PM UTC

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Richard Stallman founded the Free Software Foundation (FSF) for this very reason. You might think it's ridiculous but the fight for the right to modify the software running on devices you own has been raging for 35 years and is bigger than ever.

I am fine with this for most things except my phone. I trust Apple more than any party in the world. Even the government. Fortnight devs, Epic, whatever are not even on the same radar. They'll sell your privacy in milliseconds if they can get 2.5 cents for it. I would never ever own an open source phone. Not because the operating system is open source (probably good that it has eyes on it) but there is no way to cont…

Post by floatingatoll » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:51 PM UTC

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Epic expressly snuck code through the door to activate a user-visible feature in direct prohibition to App Store rules. Apple could have revoked their developer certificate in response, which would have essentially killed all installations of Fortnite iOS/Mac worldwide within 24 hours. That they are merely revoking their ability to sign new code and giving them 2 weeks to perform an orderly shutdown is far less draco…

> Notarization is about protecting users who are not capable of making an informed decision about code safety from developers who refuse to comply with Apple's terms of service. No, notarization is about preventing malware. That's all. This has been promised to us by Apple many many times. Malware prevention only. Fortnite is not malware.