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Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Post by Thorrez »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #416
Thorrez wrote: post #414

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jesus said "Then they will go away to eternal punishment". That seems clear enough to me that there's some place (not necessarily a physical place) where people will suffer eternally. I think that covers the basics of the Christian view of Hell. Whether it's associated with burning or not seems a lesser matter to me.

>That seems clear enough to me that there's some place (not necessarily a physical place) Did God create this place?

This doesn't seem relevant to the original question of whether the Bible says Hell exists or not. People can agree that something exists without agreeing how it was created.

One view[1][2] is that Hell isn't really a place, but rather a state of being, and the primary suffering of Hell is the separation from God[3]. God didn't create it, rather we ourselves created it by separating ourselves from God through sin.

[1] https://www.stbensduluth.org/blog/fr-joel-hastings/who-creat...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_Hell#State

[3] https://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p12...

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Post by gliese1337 »

ben_w wrote: post #261
jobigoud wrote: post #221

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How do the dead ancestors give consent in the current scheme?

Asking them in the afterlife, apparently.

Correct. Proxy baptisms are never considered to make someone a member of the Church, precisely because it is not possible for the earthly Church to confirm with a dead person that they have given their consent. It is merely considered to make the opportunity for giving consent available to the person in the afterlife.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Post by berkes »

yreg wrote: post #299
berkes wrote: post #295

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I strongly disagree. I consider it comparable to something like financial administration. In which an "expense" or "exchange" has two sides. Me, paying you, you receiving the money. It is not up to me to decide to just release such data. Because it encodes other people's data too. If I were to release my financial records because "it's my data", i'd be exposing a lot of people, organisations and companies who I had i…

But it is up to me to decide to release my financial records. All the parties I've dealt with have to expect the possibility (unless there is some signed agreement that prevents disclosing them). With DNA I'm not so sure.

I'm pretty sure that if were to leak all their financial transactions, that is considered a large data-breach and would be considered a privacy infringement.

I am aware that "an ecommerce platform" is something else than "your personal finance", but the principle is the same: X shouldn't release other people's financial transactions just because those were done with X.

Re: Breach exposed more than one million DNA profiles on a major genealogy database

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Post by JetSpiegel »

ig1 wrote: post #386
jacquesm wrote: post #356

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And of course law enforcement has never before used illegally obtained evidence to construct a new trail that was plausible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

It's not about law enforcement using the data, it's about the viability of running a business that provides illegal hacking services for law enforcement.

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