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Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Who else had hi-res screens in 2012?

Nobody in the laptop scene. They were the only ones with an OS that could correctly handle scaling at the time.

I had a 1080p Alienware laptop in 2004. Then for some reason, laptops all went even lower resolution for a long time, and I couldn't find a good one until Apple came out with their Retina displays. Not sure what happened. Manufacturers just became cheap?

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

Hello! Person who actively dislikes 4k here. In my experience: 1. No matter what operating system you're on, you'll eventually run into an application that doesn't render in high dpi mode. Depending on the OS that can mean it renders tiny, or that the whole things is super ugly and pixelated (WAY worse than on a native 1080p display) 2. If the 4k screen is on your laptop, good luck ever having a decent experience plu…

Another linux+i3 user here, I've not tried 4k yet but you confirmed my suspicions.

I did a lot of research before buying an xps-13 and went with the 1080p version due to basically all the reasons you just stated + poor battery life and video performance.

I have hope for the future though... what would really make transitioning easier is a way to automatically upscale incompatible programs, even if it means nearest neighbor scaling at least it will make them usable on super hi-dpi monitors.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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The monitor I want: - 1440p - IPS panel - size between 23 and 27 inches, ideally 24 or 25 - flatscreen, 16:9, normal monitor, no "gamer" or other weird stuff. - reasonably priced I don't live in a rich country so there's not much variety. I got tired of searching for it. All monitors with more than 1080p I've found are either "gamer" (which cost 5x as much because of the gamer tax and other features useless to me, li…

What about this one / similar: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LS24H850QFUXEN-WQHD-24-Inch...

I'm using this and quite happy with it

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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post #76

The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

> nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor

In addition to what thomaslord said [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23554382 ], 4K monitors tend to be widescreen. 1280x1024 user here; you'll take my aspect ratio when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello! Person who actively dislikes 4k here. In my experience: 1. No matter what operating system you're on, you'll eventually run into an application that doesn't render in high dpi mode. Depending on the OS that can mean it renders tiny, or that the whole things is super ugly and pixelated (WAY worse than on a native 1080p display) 2. If the 4k screen is on your laptop, good luck ever having a decent experience plu…

FWIW, my main monitor is a 43" 4k display, and it works perfectly fine on AwesomeWM - but I' don't use any scaling, the 4k is purely for more screen real estate - literally like having 4 perfectly aligned borderless 24" monitors. I can fit 10 full A4 pages of text simultaneously.

Haven't you effectively escaped the super hi-dpi issues of parent? I think he is referring to use of smaller screens at 4k.

Interesting idea thought just effectively having a massive monitor.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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I couldn't care more for resolution. I use three 1080p 27" Dell monitors and the only upgrade I did was moving to IPS which slightly relieved my eye-strain. Now if you can find me a monitor which will reduce eye-strain, I'll just dump money on that. For someone who uses the screen for 10-12 hours on a normal day, headaches induced by the eyes are my biggest worry.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Interesting reading, but... I can't understand why he states that a 4k monitor at 1.5x is worst than a 1440p monitor at 1x...

Pixel density will be better, for example, in game textures and movies?

I am really interested in buying a new monitor from quite a while, but I really don't get that part, can somebody help me with that?

Thanks in advance HN folks!

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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My take on having used quite a variety of displays: 1440p with a high (120, 144 etc) refresh rate is the way to go. With 4K you can lose a lot of performance especially since they are often paired with integrated graphics. Also what's the point of a higher pixel density when it's higher than you can resolve? Meaning if you have to zoom that's a sign that you get nothing more from increasing resolution. Also despite c…

>Bonus point that isn't mentioned in the article: HDR is a meme, don't buy into that crap. I'd wager more people are going to notice the difference between HDR and SDR than they would 4k vs 1080p. It is by far the biggest picture quality upgrade I've seen since going from SD to HD. The problem is HDR sucks on LCDs, so it's largely useless on PC. FALD isn't enough to limit the halos, even with a ton of zones. I own th…

I mean sure HDR is impressive, but for me it's always like 3D movies.. nice for 5 minutes and then you see the flaws. Dimming zones are a really crappy way to get around the fundamental display tech limitation like you said. But OLED has insane problems with burn-in. They officially don't exist but there are endless reports of this happening. Although I can't speak with high confidence about that. In general the major problem with non-OLED displays are the black levels. Going for HDR was a silly PR move.
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