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Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by ta999999171 »

StavrosK wrote: post #323
ta999999171 wrote: post #317

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Long time listener, first time caller: You're into auto racing?! Link some stuff?

No, it's a joke! Because it says "liar" afterwards. And the previous post was also a joke, ie that I was lying about being a liar, which is a paradox. I am a below average driver, alas. I am Greek, though, and some would say that's more exciting!

Oii, what the fuck, hahahaha....

From what I've heard, you might as well smash your side mirrors off at the dealer when you buy a car, aha...so, yeah, checks out.

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Post by lutoma »

cameronbrown wrote: post #46
dabeeeenster wrote: post #23

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Have to wonder how much that domain name is worth...?

Probably expensive, but I doubt it's actually worth anything. I reckon it's much harder to build a brand when you start with a generic word.

I can see it work for a delivery service type thing. For a few years, a large platform here just used "pizza.de".

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by gitgud »

oftenwrong wrote: post #170

There is a search engine dedicated to finding "classic" websites: https://wiby.me/ Click the "surprise me..." link to see a random one.

This is brilliant! The first "surprise me" mad me smile :)

http://toastytech.com/evil/index.html

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Post by int_19h »

scarface74 wrote: post #416
int_19h wrote: post #413

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And yet you can still run .NET 1.0 apps on Win10, and this isn't changing in the foreseeable future. Hell, you can run VB6 apps on Win10 - it even ships the runtime! - and the remaining hold-outs in that developer community have been complaining about abandonment for two whole decades now.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/framework/install/ru... The .NET Framework 1.1 is not supported on the Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012, Windows Server 2012 R2, or the Windows 10 operating systems. In some cases, the .NET Framework 1.1 is specifically identified as required for an app to run. In those cases, you should contact your independent software vendor (ISV) to have the app upgraded to run o…

You can't install .NET 1.x itself on Win10. But you can install .NET 3.5, and it can run .NET 1.x apps.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by dredmorbius »

derefr wrote: post #344
dredmorbius wrote: post #206

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Markdown and/or markdown processors are known to change. Since there's no single Markdown spec, determining just how a page will render, or what will break, is a bit of a crapshoot. And since Markdown treats nonparsable markup as ... plain text, you don't even get errors or other indicators of failure. You've got to view and validate the output manually or by some other means. With formal tag-based markup languages (…

I feel like the difference with Markdown is that it's not meant to be a hidden source format. It's meant to take an existing WYSIWYG styled-text format—the one people use when trying to style text in plaintext e-mail or IM systems—and to give it a secondary rendering semantics corresponding to what people conventionally think their ASCII-art styling "means." If a Markdown parser breaks down, it's quite correct for it…

Whether or not it's intended to be a hidden source format, the fact remains that if it does not render reliably and repeatably, it's failing to do its job.

Markdown's job is to be a human-readable, lightweight, unobtrusive way of communicating to software how to structure and format a document.

It's one thing for a freshly-entered document to fail -- errors in markup occur and need to be corrected. It's another to change the behaviour and output of an unchanged text, which is what Markdown implementations have done.

(I've run into this myself on Ello where, For Mysterious and Diverse Reasons, posts and comments which I'd previously entered change their rendering even when I've not touched the content myself. This is compounded by an idiotic editor which literally won't not muck with plain ASCII text entered and insists on inserting or creating hidden characters or control codes. Among the reasons for my eventual disenchantement of what would otherwise be an excellent long-form text-publishing platform.)

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by dredmorbius »

WorldMaker wrote: post #330
btrettel wrote: post #268

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I agree with you entirely on the abandoning of conventions with HTML. I haven't paid much attention to multi-column layouts in CSS over the years but my impression is that it's gone from tables to CSS floats to whatever CSS does now that I'm not familiar with. Browsers are typically backwards compatible so this isn't that big of a deal to me. But I have no idea if what's regarded as the best practice today will be se…

Semi-relatedly, I think even the linear form of UnicodeMath [1] is very readable, and it would be great if there was more support for building it up into nicer presentation forms in the browser wild (MathJax has had it on the backlog since at least 2015, for instance), as that seems to me to be a better "fallback" situation than raw MathML given its readability when not built up. [1] http://www.unicode.org/notes/tn28…

Thanks for mentioning grid, as that's a tool I've not looked at myself.

CSS columns and Grid are not entirley substitutable, though they share some properties.

I see Columns as a way of flowing text within some bounding box, whilst Grid is preferred for arranging textual components on a page, more akin to paste-up in Aldus Pagemaker (am I dating myself) though on the rubber sheet of the HTML viewport rather than on fixed paper sizes.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by breatheoften »

ygjb wrote: post #237
scarface74 wrote: post #231

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You haven’t tried to run 16 bit software on 64 bit Windows have you?

Not to be snarky, but if there is a need to do this, it's pretty easy. If there is a real need, it is pretty trivial to do with VirtualBox or DosBox. Those applications from 20 years ago running in emulators will work far better in 20 more years than Apps from today that stop working due to remote service dependencies to force vendor lock-in. It is endlessly amusing to me that the more tightly integrated the cloud se…

Can you imagine how massive the field of software archeology will actually need to be to capture an understanding of the human experience of software development in the “distant past”.

Take any given product or system. what percentage of the software involved in implementing the system was written x years in the past. What’s gonna happen to that distribution in 10 or 100 years?

I wonder how inevitable it is that this percentage of ancient software in virtually every system will just keep growing and growing over time — until the systems of the future are tiny layers built on top of 1000 year old, impenetrable old growth forests which as well have been written by aliens for their understandability ...

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by edwinyzh »

geocrasher wrote: post #90

These simple sites show us something profound: If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last. There are a some technologies that will never allow somebody to build a site and leave it unchanged for 20 or 25 years. Cold Fusion comes to mind. Almost nobody hosts it anymore for one. Can you imagine running the same WordPress version for 25 years? The version of PHP it runs on will be EOL long…

What you said made me glad that I've just developed DocxManager (https://docxmanager.com) - its concept is like WordPress (document-focused editor, themes and templates) but it generates standard html/css/js, and use Word as the document editor.

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Post by aasasd »

TingPing wrote: post #396
smush wrote: post #335

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No kidding. Already, I've found some interesting articles to read. I'm taking a look at https://dwheeler.com/essays/easy-cross-platform-gui.html , which has references to XULRunner etc. which since 2009 have fallen out of favor. Would you continue to recommend those wanting to invest in (for the 80% of use cases) wxWidgets for FLOSS cross-platform GUI apps? BoaConstructor et. al look interesting. Thanks for taking th…

wxWidgets is a poor platform abstraction that just results in the lowest common denominator of UI.

I haven't seen any cross-platform widget APIs that allow you to build a MacOS toolbar, for example―at least among the popular APIs. You mostly can only specify that the titlebar and the toolbar should be merged. Qt can draw something, but it will look like a Qt toolbar, not a Mac one.

So I don't see how WxWidgets is an outlier here.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Post by awiesenhofer »

zeitg3ist wrote: post #404
dbalatero wrote: post #19

My favorite like this site is http://www.burger.com - this dude has a hilarious array of hobbies and awesome beveled button links.

To this day I still visit www.scaruffi.com to read his opinions about music - the layout hasn’t changed since the 90s or even the 80s for some pages.

> or even the 80s

Probably not ;)

> Initial release 1993; 27 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML

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