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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Vinnl »

ilikepi wrote: post #262
Vinnl wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally, the actual functionality is just built into Firefox; all the extension does is expose a UI to manage it.

The extension also allows you to set that a particular site be assigned to, and automatically open in, a given container. I don't believe this particular feature is built into Firefox.

Indeed, it's just the containerisation functionality and assigning a tab to open in a Container that's built in; actually initiating the opening is done by the extension, e.g. when you navigate to a specific origin.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by atoav »

p1necone wrote: post #339
atoav wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important point: GDPR allows you to use strictly necessary cookies without asking for consent. So if you hate to put cookie banners onto a site, just stick with storing only strictly necessary cookies without data that identifies your users and you are fine. The problem is, many people don’t even know what cookies their own site stores with their users and they store a ton of tracking cookies on their user’s devices.

Isn't the whole point of cookies to identify users (for session persistence and the like, not just ads)? If you're not identifying users what are you achieving?

For some sites it could be enough to store the state of the site (e.g. display settings, language, etc) instead of a profile.

When I visit a random wordpress blog I shouldn’t need any cookie from them — why would I?

When I visit an online shop it should be my choice if they remember me (which is precisely what the GDPR demands). This could be a little toggle switch labled “Remember me” that is off by default and that would be it.

But people seem to prefer forcing their cookies onto users.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by iudqnolq »

coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

FF dev tools has its weaknesses, but it also has some useful functionality chrome doesn't like seeing event listeners in the DOM view

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by AndyMcConachie »

slovenlyrobot wrote: post #402
coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

Posts like this always come up in these threads and they're really great, but it's worth adding that 'switching to Firefox' isn't something anyone actually has to do. Just start using it for one thing or another and any complete change will happen naturally if it makes any sense. It's a process that involves no effort and no risk The only thing I use Chrome for is gaming, graphics perf is still miles better than Fire…

I mostly agree.

I've been using web browsers since the mid 1990's and with the exception of when I first started using them I have never only used one. These days I regularly use Chrome, FF and Safari every day for different tasks.

I'm not alone in this. When I peak at other people's computers I regularly see multiple browsers being used there as well. Even the less computer savy people know to use different browers for different websites depending on what works.

This is all to say I don't quite grasp naive understandings of the browser horse races. There is likely little actual switching going on, and the concept of market share in browsers needs to be reexamined.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by neurostimulant »

coldfire wrote: post #376

As a long time Chrome user, and someone who (admittedly) said to a FF fan about an year ago, that it's too late for FF to catch up to Chrome now. I gave FF another shot about 6 months ago, and I'm liking it more every month since then. It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools. Also, some websites don't behave well in FF and I find that most of the time…

> It has been my primary browser outside of work, the major reason I use Chrome now is for Chrome Dev Tools.

That's pretty much what I do in the past few years. Firefox is my primary personal browser, while Chrome is strictly for work only. Hopefully I can fully transition to Firefox for work stuff this year as almost all debugging features I used are available on Firefox. It's mostly just muscle memory that holding me back after years of using Chrome dev tools.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by gombosg »

I've been using Firefox for the last 10 or so years. (Used the "new Chrome-Opera" for a while but went back soon)

These recent developments are awesome. As a frontend developer, I also find the devtools absolutely competitive with Chrome's.

The default ad- and tracker blocking is nice, I only need to use uBblock Origin for Youtube (whitelisting only that), since Youtube became nearly unusable due to the massive amount of ads.

Edit: also, they are fortunately tackling two prominent annoyances of the "modern web" i.e. push notification popups (for those who don't turn the whole feature off outright in about:config) and video autoplay.

So sad that Firefox's market share is still just 9-10%. :(

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by otanriverdi »

kmlx wrote: post #174
otanriverdi wrote: post #4

It's great to see Firefox improving constantly. Especially since Chrome is unusable on MacOS Catalina for many users atm.

? i'm using the latest macos and chrome. what exactly isn't supposed to be working? i also have firefox installed, but on macos firefox is mostly an alpha/unfinished release since years ago.

Well I'm having both the smooth scrolling bug and the constant beach ball of death for 5 seconds issue on my macbook.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by neurostimulant »

saagarjha wrote: post #407
Twirrim wrote: post #40

"Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site." That should pretty much kill off a lot of the notification request crap, especially if Chrome follows suit. I can envision the conversion rate massively falling…

It may not; you'll just get fake notification prompts from the page that will morph intro instructions on how to enable notifications when you click "accept".

This already happening for quite some time now. Many websites uses OneSignal and their fake prompt looks similar with Chrome's notification prompt (at least to ordinary users): https://documentation.onesignal.com/docs/permission-requests...

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by zelly »

Firefox's killer feature was generating sync keys locally and letting you self-host a compatible sync host.

Chrome generates the sync keys on server and has proprietary sync software.

That's it. That's all it took for me to switch. I know FF eats almost double the CPU compared to Chrome. I know 1 out of every 10 webapps will just not work in it. That's fine. I will take the security and privacy over convenience.

Just buy a better CPU.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by benboughton1 »

Firefox is great on desktop. I use it 95+% of time. But it is not so good on Android. Ebay is great example. Most of the time, go to page 2 of search results and you get no listings. I want to use Firefox on mobile as it syncs my bookmarks and passwords but things like this are frustrating.
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