John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

Post by dang » Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 5:39 AM UTC

Bizarro wrote: post #398

bronz wrote: post #26

i say this with respect and humility, but i am very surprised at the naivete with which John addressed the subject of AGI. he is so casual about it -- not only the idea of working on it but also the idea of it existing at all. he seems oblivious to the gravity of that discovery. it is not just "very valuable," it will be earth shattering and probably wipe out humanity. and its his side-project. and his son will help…

Stop staying up late to watch DUST on Youtube.

Post by codetrotter » Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 5:44 AM UTC

codingslave wrote: post #371

randcraw wrote: post #339

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Agreed. Deep learning has revolutionized AI and anyone hoping to contribute to AGI is going to have to master DL first, and probably a lot more AI like a variety of probabilistic methods. That's a challenging learning curve that's not much different from earning a PhD. And then, to stand out in AGI, you're going to have to integrate a dozen kinds of cutting edge components, none of which are anywhere ready for prime…

I actually don't think mastering deep learning is very difficult. Theres a gazillion papers and ideas floating around, but the core concepts, that actually work, things like batch normalization, gradient descent, dropout, etc are all relatively simple. Most of the complexity comes from second rate scientists pushing their flawed research out into the public in some form of a status game

Post by haihaibye » Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 5:45 AM UTC

prvc wrote: post #312

>For the time being at least, I am going to be going about it “Victorian Gentleman Scientist” style, pursuing my inquiries from home Who will fund the necessary computing resources? If not FB, then he will surely be joining or starting a different org

Post by CriticalCathed » Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 5:46 AM UTC

goatlover wrote: post #202

echelon wrote: post #122

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What a weird future it would be if Carmack turns out to be the one to figure out the critical path and get it all working. An entire field of brilliant researchers be damned. History books (for as long as those continue to exist) would cite AGI as his major contribution to society, and his name would be more renowned than Edison or Tesla. An Einstein. None of his other contributions will matter, as the machines will…

I'm not sure I want AGI to succeed, given some of the possibilities. Sure if it plays nicely alongside us, amplifying human society, that's great. But if we get relegated to second class with the AIs doing everything meaningful, then no thanks. But it's still a fascinating endeavor.

Post by nmfisher » Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 5:47 AM UTC

cyberjunkie wrote: post #349

carlosdp wrote: post #68

This doesn't surprise me at all. He went on a week long cabin-in-the-middle-of-nowhere trip about a year ago to dive in to AI (that's all this guy needs to become pretty damn proficient). (edit: I'm not claiming he's a field expert in a week guys, just that he can probably learn the basics pretty fast, especially given ML tech shares many base maths with graphics) As recent as his last Oculus Connect keynote, he exto…

I can trust John Carmack's words when he says in an interview, or on stage. There's a passion in his talks, a nervousness in blurting what he really feels, and those are really good traits, in my mind. I genuinely felt a sense of disappointment when he moved to Facebook (via the Occulus acquisition). So yea, fuck you, Facebook and your manipulative, life values corrupting and PR machinery. I place John Carmack miles…