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kelp wrote: post #231
chrisco255 wrote: post #208

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Neither TV nor radio quite fits the analogy... because these are broadcast 1:many mediums. And the idea that no one has a right to have their message amplified to millions is sort of insidious and evil. Because the consumers choose what to watch on YouTube. And the users produce the content. So this more like a virtual community with billions of micro-interactions. Of course it scales. The internet is a testiment to…

Insidious and evil? that's a pretty strong value judgement. Could you explain more?

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Post by mbesto »

otakucode wrote: post #398
starik36 wrote: post #351

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They are acting like a monopolist. And they are an effective monopoly.

A reply to you makes the unsubstantiated claim that YouTube is a profit-seeking company. They ignore the fact that, no, YouTube has not operated as a profit-seeking company. The reason YouTube is, and will remain, the pre-eminent video platform is because it was run at a profound loss for over a decade, losing hundreds of millions of dollars at a clip, for no reason other than to totally suppress competition. Framing…

> The reason YouTube is, and will remain, the pre-eminent video platform is because it was run at a profound loss for over a decade, losing hundreds of millions of dollars at a clip, for no reason other than to totally suppress competition.

No one actually knows whether YT is technically profitable as a sole entity. So the premise of your argument and the argument you're referring to is basically flawed unless you have insider information.

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Post by loeg »

anbop wrote: post #340
ac29 wrote: post #334

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Except that slopes are actually slippery sometimes. Look at the recent, and quite rapid, normalization of physical violence in American political argumentation.

What normalization? Physical violence is extremely uncommon, but grossly overreported by the media. If it bleeds, it ledes.

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Post by castis »

hobofan wrote: post #417
Asooka wrote: post #408

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Why do you only have one google account?

Is having multiple (non-company) Google accounts allowed per their TOC?

I have 3, had them for years. Haven't been struck down by any gods yet.

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Post by 19870213 »

So apparently the video was about how to light fireworks using WiFi, could it then be the case that it might fall under a 'dangerous handling of explosives' guideline instead of the 'showing users how to bypass secure computer systems'. The Google support pages says there are other guidelines not listed there.

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Post by mankeysee »

19870213 wrote: post #360
emiliobumachar wrote: post #277

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I'm sorry, this just flew over my head. What is this analogy about? Is Google DoS'ing third party websites? Deranking them? Suing for patent infringement? Who's W?

If you want to livestream on Youtube, you aren't allowed to mention or link to other livestreaming solutions, such as Twitch.

Doesn't Twitch have similar rules regarding not advertising other streaming sites? I mean, its reasonable trying not to give free advertisement for your competitors.

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Post by nkurz »

rolltiide wrote: post #103
maerF0x0 wrote: post #64

Or thinkspot becomes the youtube killer and we all continue on https://www.ts.today/ edit: I have no idea how thinkspot is going to play out. But if I know one thing about the internet it's that it's really hard to stop people from using it however they please. Attempts to squash mostly just result a shift of where it occurs, not the fact that it occurs.

honestly people have just been uploading to pornhub and similar sites. they have practically no content restrictions. the meme has been to add pornographic industry titles to benign non sexual videos. that part is just for fun and views

I wasn't aware of that, but it's charming to think of Pornhub deleting videos for being "Insufficiently Pornographic", and then for the uploader to argue that anything can be pornographic to someone. Eventually culminating in a court case based on the "I know it when I don't see it" principle.

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Post by sequoia »

Aelius wrote: post #217
whatshisface wrote: post #116

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Vimeo isn't clean, they banned Alex Jones for believing (edit: and yes, saying) unacceptable things.

Your definition of "free speech" includes not taking action against truly malicious and slanderous and manipulative people like Alex Jones? And there is no "who draws the line‽" argument here, Jones exists miles beyond what is ever ok.

The courts can draw this line & determine these distinctions, and they are doing just this right now. Jones is currently being sued by some Sandy Hook parents. It turns out we don't need to rely on Youtube of Vimeo to be the ultimate arbiters of this issue, and the system may just be working in this case.

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Post by analognoise »

loudmax wrote: post #377
taurath wrote: post #326

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It'd be real nice if we could make an expeditionary force and start setting up more cities outside, to continue the analogy. At the moment, most groups wanting to leave the city contain too many undesirables, but eventually there'll be enough critical mass. What does that look like? At first - an ecosystem of services, packaged together, rather than piecemeal. Firefox, duckduckgo, an open calendar. I don't think it m…

> The OS doesn't matter as much anymore. I disagree. Everything described above applies to the Microsoft Windows monopoly. The monopoly was shaken by the web, then by mobile in general, but lots of traditional businesses are still locked into the Windows stack. Non technical businesses in particular are locked into MS Office. Given that the world basically shrugged and let MS keep their stranglehold over the enterpri…

What if Microsoft was offering the best solutions to enterprise, and that's why they kept their stranglehold?
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