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Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by mcv »

gniv wrote: post #414
philpem wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need only look at the rampant abuse of Content ID to see what the likely result will be... "Sorry, the video you uploaded 'Me playing Beethoven on the piano' contains BEETHOVEN'S 5TH SYMPHONY by BMG-EMI-XYZ Music Corp. You cannot upload this video."

Is that illegal though (wrongly blocking a video)? If it isn’t, YT can just shrug it off.

Small time content creators have no way to challenge this. YT's terms and conditions probably allow YT to block it for any reason at all, and as long as you lack the resources to sue them, they can just shrug it off.

Measures like this only serve Big Content. And badly, in my opinion.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by tzs »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #295
philpem wrote: post #226

As I said on one of the other threads... 26 March 2019. The day the Internet died. (at least in Europe) But of course -- "the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it" -- so what we're likely to see is a massive spike in people streaming video over encrypted tunnels into other countries. That'd be interesting. It'd render GeoIP rather moot, among other things. I suspect the EU and Member States'…

What's weird to me is: Europe isn't exactly a content powerhouse. Why are they so concerned with copyright protections?

It might have something to do with their concern for privacy protections.

Strengthening privacy protection makes the most popular model for sites to pay for content creation and operating costs--selling information about their visitors to advertisers--much less effective.

Maybe as part of that they want to make it more viable for sites to switch to a direct selling of content model?

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Post by kupfer »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #372
reitanqild wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been a lot of shady copyright trolling against bittorrent users.

Arguably, BitTorrent is mass distribution of, frequently, large numbers of files, by design. That being said, I think you see a lot more activity against the torrent tracker sites than individual seeders, and it's exceedingly unlikely someone who just leeches would see any sort of legal harassment.

The last part depends highly on your location. In Germany there are law firms specialized in watching popular torrents. They make millions from threatening users with legal proceedings and if you leech popular content you're more likely than not to get a letter from them.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by tutanchamun »

bashwizard wrote: post #214
aembleton wrote: post #177

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Doubt it. I don't think many people know or care about this.

Just wait until they eventually are greeted with a notice "Sorry, we've blocked all users from Europe due to the new copyright reform" on every major social media site/app.

They should also show a picture of the one responsible for it: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm9jfQ7XoAA4E5B.jpg:large or even better, the animated original: https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1040140221164281856

Sadly neither will happen. The major social media sites and apps were too silent this time around. Back in 2012 when ACTA was voted on there was much more activity.

Since Youtube and Facebook etc. already have filter mechanisms in place they probably want to profit from it by selling it as a SAAS to smaller companies that don't have the resources to implement their own filtering.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by Shivetya »

zaarn wrote: post #262
montenegrohugo wrote: post #241

A big part of the problem is that there is no single entity that defends the citizens interest in this instance. You have the Disney's of the world heavily lobbying to pass reforms like these, but who protests against it? - Online signatures? Gets laughed out of the room. They could be fake, they don't mean anything, they are paid, etc.. - Voting? Voting cycles are too long and voting decisions cannot be made on a si…

EU Elections are coming up. Vote for the pirate faction in your country or check who voted what and only vote for those parties that voted against A13 or if there are none, parties that are vocal against A13. Same goes for your countries own election cycle.

American here.

Now I know some nations within the EU have proportional voting but I have to ask, how difficult is it to unseat a politician? How difficult is it to do so within their party, are there the equivalent of the US primary system?

For the US, unless they are not running the chance of reelection is very high so without some sort of political shift not governed by one of our two parties is near impossible.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by tremon »

moate wrote: post #213
Angostura wrote: post #129

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> It only works as long as the representatives see it as their duty to represent the will of the voters accurately That's not really the idea behind representative democracy. It's supposed to work that you vote for the person whose values intelligence and approach to policy you agree with, and they use their skill and judgement from there on in - you can of course lobby them on issues.

Right, but the problem is often the 'lesser of two evils' voting options. There's no choice present for me that I feel represents what I want/need in an elected official. I'm not voting for what I want, I'm just making sure that what I loathe doesn't get into office. This is the problem with representative democracy; it assumes there's a good proxy for my voice, and there increasingly isn't

This is where party-based politics fails representative democracy. There are supposed to be N voices in parliament, so that at least N different voices can be heard.

Large parties, party discipline and backroom deals are (imnsho) fundamentally at odds with a well-functioning representative democracy.

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Post by pierreb »

kaybe wrote: post #333
pierreb wrote: post #277

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Sorry -- not all affected platforms are run by "big corporations". All for-profit plateforms over 3 years old are affected, even small ones. This will severely harm the EU startup scene in that category.

Does that rule contain a definition of 'platform'? I probably cannot just change the name every 3 years, can I?

The term they use is "online content sharing platform" + some rules about organizing content. Please see the text, it is a bit messy, I think it is better than quoting parts of it here. Depends on how you interpret it.

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Post by circlefavshape »

FWIW all the musicians rights societies in Ireland have been pushing FOR this change, presenting it as protection for 'content creators'. If A13 affects digital distributors like CDBaby and distrokid then independent musicians are going to be effectively shut out of the modern music market

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by neves »

random878 wrote: post #312

As someone who grew up alongside the internet, I wonder if this is just part of the bigger picture of where the internet has always been heading... The bigger, more popular, and ubiquitous it became the more corporate and political powers were going to seek to rule it. Now were are at an age of internet giants with the GDP of small countries, and political elections being swayed by the bovine herds of Facebook and Tw…

You can try any book of Evgeny Morozov, a opinion writer for Slate. Some of his articles: https://slate.com/author/evgeny-morozov

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Post by tomjen3 »

IanSanders wrote: post #88
geff82 wrote: post #4

I will now start my move out of the EU. I know how heavily restricted Internet feels like from my frequent Iran travels, and I will move out of any country that moves 2 inches in that direction, whatever the "good reason" might be. Politicians felt like your regular corrupt banana republic representatives this time. And now they know how to get away with this, they will try it with something different again soon.

>I will now start my move out of the EU While good for you, EU will have one less citizen opposing internet restriction. We need a better way to deal with this but I cannot think of one. >Politicians felt like your regular corrupt banana republic representatives this time. That's what it converges to. Good ones don't survive.

>We need a better way to deal with this but I cannot think of one.

Democracy was a nice dream, but ultimately the only way to get anything done has always, is and will always be violence.

Which I am not advocating, because then the state will do violence to me.

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