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Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by weavie »

mbrumlow wrote: post #357
weavie wrote: post #304

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I have just installed powertop and updated the settings. It doesn't seem to have made any difference... but that's probably because I don't know what I am doing. I'll read up on it further. Thanks for the tip.

What battery do you have? The thin one?

Not 100% sure, I'll have to look when I get home this evening. I think it may not be the thin one as it is thicker than the rest of the case, but don't totally know off hand what I should be looking at to determine it..

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by syntaxing »

blattimwind wrote: post #55
syntaxing wrote: post #43

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You should see my X62, the battery is so bad. I even bought a "brand new" battery and it last about 2 hours. We don't notice it but battery technology has really pushed forward since a decade ago.

> You should see my X62, the battery is so bad. I even bought a "brand new" battery and it last about 2 hours. That's probably a fake or aged battery, or your power management is set up incorrectly. A X62 with a fresh battery lasts a lot longer than 2 hours.

Where did you buy yours? I bought an old X61 and the battery was crap. I can only find affordable genuine ones on eBay. The ones on Amazon were $200... So it didn't make sense to buy them

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by syntaxing »

newnewpdro wrote: post #400
systemBuilder wrote: post #342

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You can just crack open a ThinkPad battery and put in New 18650 cells!

oh? I've tried this before, the battery charge/fuel gauge circuit entered a permanent fault state and none of the tricks I found online worked. It was an x61 battery.

I would love to learn how you did this!

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by aaaaaaaaaaab »

jjeaff wrote: post #259
emiliosic wrote: post #248

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My office decided to move from Jabber (Pidgin / Adium) to Slack. Much of the office upgraded computers. Whether Jabber is negligible, Slack used más two to three Gb RAM. It’s simply the most inefficient software I have to Tun continuously on that PC

They have raised so much money and have so many engineers. Is performance of their app so low priority that no one is working on that?

You've answered it yourself:

>They have raised so much money and have so many engineers.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by VvR-Ox »

camgunz wrote: post #236
ahstilde wrote: post #81

Can someone help me understand why Americans still buy Lenovo computers after Superfish and Lenovo Service Engine? Why isn't Lenovo as much of a security risk as Huawei?

You don't buy the new ones. You buy at latest an X230 and put Linux or BSD on it. All the excitement around 51nb is that you can upgrade to modern hardware if you think the X220 is the last good notebook ever commercially produced. A lot of people (disclaimer: including me) think that, which is why you see them as targets for things like OpenBSD and Libreboot. But you're right, I would never buy a "modern" Lenovo tho…

Still using the x220 as my every day personal notebook.

At work I have the x230 with the new keyboard - it's not as good as the old one still in the x220 but it's way better than let's say the new macbook keyboards.

The sad thing is that the x220 doesn't compete doing stuff with many VM's or consumer things like videos with high-res.

But I can totally live with that and use it for everything else with the following specs & setup: - 16GB RAM - 256GB SSD - i5-2540M CPU @ 2.60GHz - extended battery (good for holding it while carrying around) - i3wm (it's awesome how much you can do with few resources) - programming/writing etc. with VIM (also saves a lot compared to an eclipse/intellij)

It's definitely not the PC you want a full fledged desktop environment on and you shouldn't bother doing video stuff etc. but for everything else it's just perfect and I wouldn't want to give it away as long as I can.

The x230 is ok but I don't have so much love for it, can't explain what exactly I miss most but it's not the TP experience I was searching for all the years.

My next project is an old x200 that will be refurbished and put to test with some BSD OS (I heard it's also quite interesting and easy on old hardware).

P.S.: The trackpads suck hell and I only use the red nub on TPs. The only trackpad I ever found useful was on a MBP (some time around 2016 I think) but they managed to destroy that experience like they did with their crappy keyboards :-P

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Post by setquk »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #413
setquk wrote: post #411

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Yes AFAIK it started in Essex where someone would buy a “shed” car typified by the Vauxhall Nova with various attachments to it and drive it around town all night being a “Barry Boy”. As we all got older, grew up and went to work in the city (London) it seems to have been adopted as a definition for anything that looks ok from the outside but is made of sewn together corpses and bits of tape and straw inside. I’ve he…

Drive it around? Blimey, these wealthy types. I always thought shed came from them being the sort of rust bucket normally found abandoned in a shed. Barely running, owned by someone who can barely fix or fuel it. So it would be somewhere to sit parked - and listen to the crappy stereo at max distortion - with bits falling or rusting off it in time to the bass. Least that's how we used it oop north in the 80s. The car…

Not wealthy - they just stole the fuel or put £5 a time in the tank after asking everyone in the vicinity to "gizz uz a fiver mate".

I think that's where shed started. A lot of people got lucky / rich and actually finished their car project. I had a proper shed which was a series III land rover with an engine in pieces in the back rather than the front. When I lived in Nottingham there were a lot of proper sheds!

Those "sheds" on pistonheads are ridiculously too good to be called a shed.

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Post by VvR-Ox »

ahstilde wrote: post #81

Can someone help me understand why Americans still buy Lenovo computers after Superfish and Lenovo Service Engine? Why isn't Lenovo as much of a security risk as Huawei?

Because Huawei is a Chinese company and still media tells people they are "the bad communists" though they are no communists at all since Mao is gone.

Same goes for spying: - The US spied on countries in EU by hijacking (network) hardware deliveries and installing intelligence offices near DE-CIX and many other actions we just don't know officially - China is suspected to do the same once in a while (I think there was some rumor about 500GB HDD's with pre-installed malware) and I'd wonder if any country with the necessary resources would do otherwise

These arguments are made to distract us from the fact that there is no real hiding place. It is made to try to convince us that one of those parties is "the good" and the other "the evil" because they want power.

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Post by dep_b »

saagarjha wrote: post #374
dep_b wrote: post #276

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Chrome used to half my battery life on a MacBook Pro. On a brand new machine with a full battery I could program all day in Xcode if I forgot my charger until one day it was empty halfway the day. Finally I figured out it was Chrome that killed it so fast.

> On a brand new machine with a full battery I could program all day in Xcode I'm impressed; with Xcode and the simulator I'm lucky to get anything longer than 6 hours…

Objective-C really is a lot kinder for your battery I guess. Also it was brand new at the time and I guess I was using a phone for debugging.

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by sdfjkl »

dandruffhead wrote: post #416
mbrumlow wrote: post #246

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I get about 9 hours of battery life on my T450s and about 6 on my x220 under load, youtube, vms, coding. That is under load. My idle times, browsing something like HN, or sitting in #emacs I get near 20 hours on my t450s and about 13 on my x220. I think low low low idle power consumption is key to long infrequent charges. This is because the second you are not using your computer then it should also not be using powe…

What OS are you running? I'm really curious on your setup if you're running Linux. I have the same Thinkpad but it's impossible for me to the the idle wattage like that.

Ubuntu 18.04: https://geoff.greer.fm/images/x210.jpg

Re: Thinkpad X210

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Post by aerique »

eggy wrote: post #160
chronolitus wrote: post #89

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Can't you tell? he's hacking e-corp

I still haven't watched the show. Is it good?

I liked it initially but the later episodes of the first season go off into la-la land which didn't do it for me. Haven't watched the second season.
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