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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Well if this isn't just redolent of "The Difference": https://qntm.org/difference

Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)

I tried to get into that film but why does every AI story seem to end with man trying to fuck his creation? I'm over that trope.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I think he means that having people fill out recaptcha all the time because they don't allow Google to track them should be an ADA violation.

Again I still don't see how not wanting Google to track you should qualify as a disability under the ADA.

Nonono, disabled people might be barred from using a service because of excessive recaptcha. That's what he means. I also think he really meant CVAA rather than ADA though.

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Lately I've been getting reCAPTCHA prompts all the time even though I'm not browsing in incognito mode and haven't cleared cookies. All I'm doing is running a very basic ad blocker, using Safari (which blocks third-party tracking), and very rarely loading a Google site. The most interaction I have with Google is when I end up having to use my corporate Google account as SSO for some other site. Given that I'm not doi…

I recently replaced a bunch of securimage captchas with reCAPTCHA v2. During testing I had to shut it off because it became increasingly more complicated every page reload. First it was just one page of traffic lights, but 20 minutes later I was having to click through 5-6 pages of images. This worries me that user's might get pissed off. I'd really like to know if I've made life harder for my users in an attempt to stop the spam from the horribly broken securimage captcha.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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That's what ReCaptcha always was... it was originally a known and another unsure text blurb from scanned books/text documents. Now it's street signs etc.

Don't forget the bonus: all your forum accounts can be linked to your google account, just in case you didn't use your gmail as the email address.

Self-destructing cookies is a solution

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I assumed the infuriating ambiguity is intentional, in order to train some algorithm they need to know what the prevailing human correct judgement is in dicey situations

I don't think it's intentional -- it probably just emerges from the training process. I'm guessing they do something like load up a batch of images and once N people agree on one, record the answer and remove it from the rotation. You end up left with the ambiguous images where people couldn't agree.

Then why do I keep seeing the same g-damn FIRE HYDRANT! :)

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

I had roughly the same problem. My facebook career lasted for all of thirty seconds before they decided I was a robot and banned my account. I appealed and they asked me to send a photo. I sent them a photo and they said I was still a robot and there was no further appeal. Very helpful. So my choices from that point are to 1) shame them in the media and hope its an entertaining enough story that people like it or 2)…

I have received a "suspicious activity" warning on Twitter for any new account I've helped open up over the last year.

You can confirm your identity by entering your phone number and receiving a text.

I feel like it's more of a cheap ploy to get additional info after your first 25 tweets than it is any bot detection algorithm.

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Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film)

I tried to get into that film but why does every AI story seem to end with man trying to fuck his creation? I'm over that trope.

This may sound bizarre, but to fuck is a fundamental desire of organisms that reproduce sexually, and reproduction is one of the prime objectives of living organisms.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I had roughly the same problem. My facebook career lasted for all of thirty seconds before they decided I was a robot and banned my account. I appealed and they asked me to send a photo. I sent them a photo and they said I was still a robot and there was no further appeal. Very helpful. So my choices from that point are to 1) shame them in the media and hope its an entertaining enough story that people like it or 2)…

Just throwing this out there. Have you considered that maybe you are a robot?

Either that, or their lack of common sense suggests that they are.

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If you are using TOR, and not accepting cookies, they are going to have no way of knowing that you are the same user who just solved the CAPTCHA. Every request is going to appear to be from a new user. If you do everything you can to prevent google from knowing who you are, don't be surprised when they behave like they don't know who you are.

Tor Browser accepts session cookies. It won't have an established google identity, but it fully supports a temporary "solved the captcha" identity.

> The problem immediately goes away if you let google track you

I took that to mean they were blocking cookies

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

I'm left wondering, what if they said you were lying when you ticked the box? What would it mean for the transaction?
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