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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by KuroSaru »

Notion looks polished, the mobile app on the other hand is clunky, simple tasks like adding a member to a worspace is a hard task and if you don't close the android app completely it wont always update.

Like many others id like a version I could host myself locally, id happy pay for a licence to do so, and no id not expect any support at all. granted i'd expect yearly or monthly licences that had user limits, 10,50,100,enterprise.

Sadly i suspect that the reason there is no own-hosted version, be it paid or free open source is the fact that notion has been built around services like AWS/DO/RS for scalability and was never designed to be able to run in a single container and use a local datastore be it a MongoDB or (Ms/My)SQL(lite) database.

I may consider paying but not knowing where my data is stored, in what country, if it is encrypted or not or truly who has access is always an issue for me, as I'm sure it is for others.

Still a great service well worth checking out.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by VvR-Ox »

tommoor wrote: post #194

If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - http://getoutline.com We've been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.

Looks very nice!

On the integration side of things I'd wish for GitLab and other chats (don't like slack).

I'm afraid it's not easy to test your app without Slack/G+ Account and would be grateful if the project could "open to the free software world" a little more.

Thank you either way for sharing and keep up the good work!

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by VvR-Ox »

lvs wrote: post #213
ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

I miss the days when you could buy a piece of software -- like, physically buy a license that allows you to use it in perpetuity on your own terms. Then, if you want to pay for some hosted features, it makes sense to have a subscription. But the default cloud subscription dependency business plan immediately turns me off to any product. I've got too many damn subscriptions, and I can't take on any more.

I see the same problem with many products nowadays. There is a whole part of the economy following this and I wonder how so many users can cope with it.

Examples: - Adobe (PS, ID, AI,...) all cloud + subscription model since CS6 is gone - Music (Spotify & Co) - Movies/Series (Netflix, Amazon,...)

And there is many more not only focused on software products. That is why I pirate stuff first and then try to buy something that offers value to me (like vinyl from bands I like to hear) while supporting the real minds behind the work (I don't like companies just (ab)using their power for profit like amzn without delivering real value themselves).

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by MarsAscendant »

nofunsir wrote: post #296
flukus wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that it should be necessary, notion should not be violating you're privacy by default, but at least uBlock/uMatrix block the entire fullstory domain by default.

Precisely why I use it. Unfortunately it can't block everything, and it's under heavy attack[1], as we know. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14978228

...Christ. DMCA against a plain-text list of domains? What is this, Shadowrun?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by azureus »

mickael-kerjean wrote: post #295
SirensOfTitan wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs with org mode, helm, and projectile as a starting point would hit all of your asks (although org syntax has differences from markdown, it's still quite intuitive). I use org mode for: my tasks (gtd style), food log (using org columns), notes (easy export to any other format), habits. Alongside beorg for iOS for quick capturing on the go, I cannot imagine I would be any happier elsewhere.

Same here, org-mode is going nowhere, it's one of those things that just works. From wikis, todos, document authoring, agendas, code notebook, ... On mobile, there's a few options, I made one, a web app called filestash: https://demo.filestash.app/s/hn . It has a lot of the org mode candies: agenda, todos, and the real org-mode exporters: HTML, PDF, Markdown, TXT, Latex, iCal, ODT and even beamer

And literate programming too with Babel!

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by MarsAscendant »

asadkn wrote: post #139

Notion is just awesome and I have been using it for 6 months now. It's the only app I have used so far that feels like a text editor and despite covering so many use-cases, excels at each of them and outdoes individual apps made for that specific purpose. Tools I have replaced with Notion: - Todos & Planning: Evernote, Workflowy, Text Files. - Notes: Google Keep, Text Files. - Work Wiki: MediaWiki. - Collaboration/Pr…

What about the jittery performance?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by flowerlad »

ivanzhao wrote: post #284
louis-paul wrote: post #47

There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…

Notion's founder here. Thank you for the kind words - we are honored :-) To be honest, nothing we are doing is that new. Most of the ideas came from the 70s-80s (Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson...) We are just applying a fresh coat of paint. Of course, there's still a lot more to be done to fully realize these pioneers' dreams of computing as a medium for everyone – not just programmers like us. If you are inter…

>Alan Kay, Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson

It is impressive that your work is directly on top of the work done by the guy who invented the mouse, the guy who invented smalltalk and so on. Are you sure there were no inventions in between?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by thatthatis »

Notion feels like SVN. The implementation that is workable and delivers enough value to tolerate, but isn’t quite there.

Somebody please take what they’ve done, fix the annoyances, and turn it into Git.

A single central source of truth is long long overdue

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by asadkn »

MarsAscendant wrote: post #426
asadkn wrote: post #139

Notion is just awesome and I have been using it for 6 months now. It's the only app I have used so far that feels like a text editor and despite covering so many use-cases, excels at each of them and outdoes individual apps made for that specific purpose. Tools I have replaced with Notion: - Todos & Planning: Evernote, Workflowy, Text Files. - Notes: Google Keep, Text Files. - Work Wiki: MediaWiki. - Collaboration/Pr…

What about the jittery performance?

I haven't really experienced that but if I had, that would make me quit on the product. I use it on my MacBook and Hackintosh Desktop, and perhaps there's lag on other platforms but I haven't used them.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by Kaveren »

creativityland wrote: post #115

Some good alternatives - Quip ( https://quip.com ) - Airtable ( https://airtable.com ) - Taskade ( https://taskade.com )

Airtable was really bad for me compared to Notion. The rich text support is the primary but not only problem. I can't speak to the others, but Airtable is a really bad alternative.
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