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Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Using H-1B Visas to Pay Low Wages to Immigrants

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Re: Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Using H-1B Visas to Pay Low Wages to Immigrants

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Post by reddytowns »

dlp211 wrote: post #346
davidf18 wrote: post #183

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Of all of the political candidates, only Trump and Sanders spoke out against H1-B visa abuse used to depress wages. (Former) Presidential Candidate Senator Marco Rubio of Florida wanted to triple the number of H1-B visas to 250,000 from 85,000 and accepted $2 million donation from Disney. Disney of Florida had recently replaced 250 US IT workers with foreigners on H1-B. Trump especially spoke out against this move. C…

> Clinton accepted $675,000 from Goldman for 3 talks. So what? That is what people with her credentials are worth on the speaking circuit. God forbid someone get paid what they are worth, what do you think this is, a meritocracy? > she could have donated the $675,000 for charity as President Obama did with his Nobel Peace Prize Award money The Clinton's donated over $15MM to charity over the course of 2008-2015 and p…

The mob boss who donates to the orphanage is still the mob boss.

Re: Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Using H-1B Visas to Pay Low Wages to Immigrants

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

douche wrote: post #239
michaelmrose wrote: post #202

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Why don't we just allow more of them to become Americans?

This. We can happily allow millions of illegal immigrants in to work as seasonal farm labor, or import unskilled refugees from war-torn, ideologically questionable areas, that become a drain on social services, but we throw up barriers for well-educated people who will immediately start contributing, if we'd let them. It's nuts.

Hear, hear! I am firmly in the camp of the people who are really ticked off about illegal immigration, but in addition to stopping that, I've always thought that we should be increasing _legal_ immigration as much as possible.

I'm so sick of people copping out and trying to have it both ways. Bring in the immigrants who want to work, especially if they have skills. Filter out the gangbangers and the terrorists as much as possible. Win-win. Today we have the worst of both worlds.

Re: Trump Is Right: Silicon Valley Using H-1B Visas to Pay Low Wages to Immigrants

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

brilliantcode wrote: post #374
t1o5 wrote: post #29

ex H1B here. Yes Trump is right.(though I do not like him personally, he is right in this matter) Most of the corporate America is exploiting H1B workers. I have worked in one of those firms and I have friends in many other firms. These are not Indian body shops, these are American companies. Everyone's topic of discussion when we hangout is how our H1B visas were being exploited and there is nothing we could do abou…

I'm so pleased to hear this. Please, fellow American citizen hopefuls and potential American citizens tired of Trump, come on over to Vancouver or Toronto, we desperately need you to raise the decade old stagnation of tech worker's salaries. All is not well. You are going to have to deal with a significant salary cut around 40~50% not factoring in exchange rates. You also have to deal with small supply, high rent and…

Dude, we already have that. It's called San Francisco.

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Post by Simaramis »

steevenwee wrote: post #379
Simaramis wrote: post #206

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Isn't it true that Ukraine has never been an independent state except since the fall of the USSR? In its history? Except for 2 weeks after WWII? It has always been a fertile land, agrarian, impossible to defend due to no natural boundaries, its people of fiercely independent mind, yet, having been rolled over by Poles, Russians, Vikings, Norsman repeatedly and periodically throughout history? That would be the contex…

Most of your claims are false. And for argument sake if they were true, let's face it: Ukraine not only was independent since 1991, but it's territory integrity was guaranteed by Russia and USA.

I would only request that it should be viewed in context of its history. Especially if we might decide to enshrine the world in more war over it. It is in its current state a construct, without a foundation. To reach peace, a compromise must be reached.

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Post by yummyfajitas »

robjan wrote: post #412
yummyfajitas wrote: post #163

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I didn't say "outsource", I said "open an office". There's a world of difference between having a team in a different office and outsourcing.

Our biggest problem wasn't the outsourcing, it was the number of candidates who had false references and qualifications from diploma mills. And the was just the start of the problems. People also seemed unable to work without installing a hierarchical leadership structure and cascading very specific instructions down that structure which were then misunderstood due to Chinese whispers. Every person I speak to, who wo…

That's completely contrary to my experience. I've managed at least 3 Indian teams, worked with several more, and never had these issues. I admit, I might have a problem with people who had fake degrees. I never bothered to check degrees, why do I care if they can pass the code interview? (The same one I give to US devs.) My teams are generally pretty flat, more or less the same as any team I've worked on in the US.

I have heard of people having your experiences though; every single one was some clueless firangi who stayed at a fancy 5 star hotel for 2 weeks before jetting off, visited the Taj Mahal and was too scared to eat pani puri.

Opening an office in any country is an investment. You need to integrate the teams, you can't just drop by, rent an office and hope your local handlers run things perfectly. When my company opened our Pune office (a 2 hour flight from the mothership in Delhi) we shipped a relatively large leadership team down. When we hired new people they were joining an existing company, they weren't just left to fend for themselves. That would be a disaster even if it was just a NY company opening a PA office.

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Post by Simaramis »

svachalek wrote: post #230
Simaramis wrote: post #206

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Isn't it true that Ukraine has never been an independent state except since the fall of the USSR? In its history? Except for 2 weeks after WWII? It has always been a fertile land, agrarian, impossible to defend due to no natural boundaries, its people of fiercely independent mind, yet, having been rolled over by Poles, Russians, Vikings, Norsman repeatedly and periodically throughout history? That would be the contex…

So, it's not aggression if everyone else does it?

the world is based on aggression, unfortunately. To just pretend this is not so only makes things worse. A prognosis must include a proper diagnosis. Currently all that's being done by either side is using it as a ping-pong ball, that's how it has been for recent history (1.5 millenia?). Declaring Ukraine a state seems not much more than a paper-tiger. Nothing of what I said or say is meant to justify aggression or bloodshed.

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Post by Simaramis »

valuearb wrote: post #248
Simaramis wrote: post #206

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Isn't it true that Ukraine has never been an independent state except since the fall of the USSR? In its history? Except for 2 weeks after WWII? It has always been a fertile land, agrarian, impossible to defend due to no natural boundaries, its people of fiercely independent mind, yet, having been rolled over by Poles, Russians, Vikings, Norsman repeatedly and periodically throughout history? That would be the contex…

It's an independent state now. Should the U.S. be rolled over by Russia, given that it's only existed for a couple hundred years?

The U.S. had to emancipate from a perceived oppressor by forging alliances, engage in deception, and by defeating the enemy. In the end, that's what it all boils down to. Raising the specter of a giant guilt-trip wasn't gonna work for U.S.

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Post by brilliantcode »

ConceptJunkie wrote: post #423
brilliantcode wrote: post #374

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I'm so pleased to hear this. Please, fellow American citizen hopefuls and potential American citizens tired of Trump, come on over to Vancouver or Toronto, we desperately need you to raise the decade old stagnation of tech worker's salaries. All is not well. You are going to have to deal with a significant salary cut around 40~50% not factoring in exchange rates. You also have to deal with small supply, high rent and…

Dude, we already have that. It's called San Francisco.

Do you have 30,000 USD / year average salaries for junior developers there too?

I think not.

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Post by Simaramis »

steevenwee wrote: post #379
Simaramis wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it true that Ukraine has never been an independent state except since the fall of the USSR? In its history? Except for 2 weeks after WWII? It has always been a fertile land, agrarian, impossible to defend due to no natural boundaries, its people of fiercely independent mind, yet, having been rolled over by Poles, Russians, Vikings, Norsman repeatedly and periodically throughout history? That would be the contex…

Most of your claims are false. And for argument sake if they were true, let's face it: Ukraine not only was independent since 1991, but it's territory integrity was guaranteed by Russia and USA.

It's mostly a question. How can you declare a question false?

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Post by forgetsusername »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #418
powertower wrote: post #414

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These corporations are huge, with many many employees (over 30 thousand just at Goldman Sachs). Just because you used to work for Goldman in the past, does not mean you are a current and future supporter of Goldman. Nor does it mean that you are a bad person. Trump is hiring people that know how these companies work from the inside-out. Which is the exact type of person you need to be able to deal with these companie…

That has to be a self-delusion of the highest magnitude ever recorded. "Sure he's let the fox run the henhouse; but who knows better than a fox?"

Assuming that anyone who works for GS, or banking in general, are homogenous in morals and ethics and ability is equally delusional.
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