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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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I'd kill for an actual linux phone. I hear good things about Ubuntu's phone, but I've yet to try it.

You would actually kill someone after using it in current edition - yourself.

not good, eh? What don't you like about it?

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Got a moto g4 for under $250. Works perfectly for me. Good specs, stock android more or less, unlocked. http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-g

But it's owned by Lenovo... a Chinese company.

Chinese - put something on the phone

Americans - tap the network backbone.

What's the difference?

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> what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements? As someone who owns a 5X: - The Pixel is a premium 5" phone, not a budget one. It has a flagship SoC rather than a mid-tier SoC. - The camera is better and more responsive (the camera on the N5X is slow and annoying). - The body isn't plastic, which means there will be less issues with heat and CPU throttling…

As always the most compelling thing about the phone is Google's support - fast releases and minimal carrier bloat. You have a nice list of positives and I'm not disputing them. But the feature list for what is now Googles top phone is underwhelming. 4 GB of RAM is barely adequate - it should be 6 GB like the other Snapdragon 821 flagship. No water proofing? That's the new black. Bottom-facing speakers? Complete regre…

> 4 GB of RAM is barely adequate

I'm not disagreeing with you but what makes you say this? I've never owned a phone with more than 2GB of RAM and I'm not sure what I'm missing out on.

> no optical image stabilization

I trust a software company like Google with EIS, particularly given their work with HDR+. I owned an iPhone 7 for about a week and loved the stabilisation Google's app did on my Motion Stills.

> Google needs to blow Apple away with features rather than aping the latest iphone.

The impression I got from the announcement is that that's what they see their assistant being. Personally that doesn't win me over at all but we'll see how it goes. I could see my mother and her friends all wanting the phone that can talk to them (and it looks more impressive than Siri).

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Good note. Funny how many users are mentioning price as their main reason for dismissing the Pixel

iphones are expensive for most people

Parent means dismissing it as an iPhone competitor, I assume.

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Last week we tried to launch an Android-first app at a major startup conference with 5000 visitors. 95% of the visitors (startups, entrepreneurs, investors, executives) had iPhones. We later confirmed this by looking at the network stats and couldn't believe it. In a country where Android statistically has 80% marketshare. The Android users loved the product, but we failed because we couldn't generate word-of-mouth.…

Actually that shows a big opportunity exists for startups in Android space. Clearly the startup world is not where the customers are due to various reasons. Go where the customers are, observe what they are doing and make something they can use. I truly see a big opportunity. Launching at startup events is wrong unless your customers are them.

Exactly. What he says is why most apps on Android look and feel like afterthoughts compared to their iPhone counterparts. That is opportunity.

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This is absolutely true -- I'm on a nexus 5/android 6. There's no native caldav. I use a paid client called caldav-sync which is mediocre. For a while on android 5/lollipop, you had to install a second app (free from the same author) to prevent settings being wiped during OS upgrades/patches. When I upgraded to android 6 I couldn't figure out why calendars weren't syncing until I discovered caldav-sync decided to syn…

I used Aquamail & Davdroid (paid on Play,free on F-droid) for that combo (before my hosting got ActiveSync, for which I another excellent client app called Nine), was working without issues you write about.

I had similar problems to those described above and aquamail did alleviate it but at the cost of major battery life. I ended up going back to Gmail since that worked so much better.

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Recently, Apple has been about a year ahead. Compare the A9 (which shipped in the 6s in fall 2015) with the Snapdragon 810 (which shipped in the Nexus 6p at the same time). http://www.anandtech.com/show/9837/snapdragon-820-preview/2 http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-i... . Heck, in many cases the A9 leaves the Snapdragon 820 behind, and that hasn't even shipped in a Nexus phone yet (the Pixel…

The only metric in which the A9 is really better than the 820 is single core performance. Multi-core and GPU metrics are about the same.

which is the most important metric. see, eg, industry-wide struggles to effectively write parallel software.

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Why is Google still insisting (with 7.1) that the 3 navigation keys (menu, home and back) need to be on screen - either wasting real-estate or annoyingly hidden - requiring a swipe to expose them? Old Android phones used to have hardware or software keys that were off the bottom of the screen - and in fact my Xiaomi Mi Note Pro still does - it frees the entire screen for content. If the '3 keys' regularly changed mea…

Hardware manufacturers have in fact regularly changed the meaning of the keys.

+1, I couldn't agree with you more.

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You cannot be serious Google? $1079AUD for Google Pixel when it's $650US....At current conversion would be $853AUD. Of course there is shipping, projected volume of sales in Australia etc... but $226 in shipping is a bit much... https://store.google.com/config/pixel_phone

Exact same pricing as the iPhone 7. Not a coincidence.

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One of the things that makes a phone developer-friendly is how accessible it is from a price perspective, i.e. not a £599 price tag.

Ah. I did think a bit of that. Agree. Not that I'm defending it, but it looks like Google is moving from being a platform provider to a (for profit) device provider. Given the endless bullshit surrounding third party vendor foot dragging, abandonment, etc., I'm not sure they had any other choice. For my part, I'm done with anything Android that isn't directly from Google (or maybe Samsung, for a phone). And even Goog…

And even Google, I distrust, after they left Motorola and my Moto X to "rust" before I was even done with its contract/payments term.

The Moto X is still getting prompt updates, regardless of the sale, no? My Moto G does at least. Certainly no rust on it.

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