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iPhone Sales Drop, and Apple’s 13-Year Surge Ebbs

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Post by sangnoir »

noir-york wrote: post #182
rocky1138 wrote: post #161

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It may be hardware, but might not be computers, phones, and tablets.

Apple is amazing when it puts its mind to hardware for which there is an "ideal" Form; the macbook is the "perfect" form for a laptop, the iPhone is the "perfect" form for a smartphone. Take watches however, there is no one perfect form - different needs demand different forms. Or cars, or fridges or planes. So yes it may not be computers, phones or tablets, but the number of multi-billion dollar aspirational hardwar…

> the iPhone is the "perfect" form for a smartphone

Heh, I remember time when a 4-inch screen was declared was the "perfect" size for a phone (with intentionally malformed Photoshopped thumb-reachability evidence to buttress the argument) and "no one would buy 'the hummers' of phones"

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Post by dijit »

erydo wrote: post #131

This is a small anecdote, but: I'm happy with my current iPhone and the current models aren't additionally compelling enough to me to upgrade. I have an iPhone 5S and don't want a larger one. When the iPhone SE came out, I was excited until I found out it didn't have force touch, which was the main interesting feature to me about the new lineup. Other than Apple Pay it seems I have very little reason to upgrade until…

I have a 6s and I'd really like to go back to my 5s, for me that was "peak phone", did everything I wanted, in a good form factor, great battery life, was the perfect size.

I originally upgraded because I wanted NFC and "it was time", but nothing is using the NFC chip in my phone so why bother?

I'm considering buying the SE but my girlfriend is hampering me, she says a 6s is a status symbol. I guess for a lot of people they'll just upgrade anyway.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

glenndebacker wrote: post #393
dzhiurgis wrote: post #91

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IMHO biggest Android advantage is being open. Hardware and software is obviously better on iOS, but being closed platform I keep getting disappointed every week because I can't do x or y. I doubt that many people base their purchasing decisions on this though.

I think that the importance of being able to do X of Y depends on what you are lookimg for in a device. This is my first iPhone as at previous occasions I always used Android (nexus) devices and I found the fact I don't need to tweak it, a positive thing. That and the fact that at it is longer supported than some Android flagship devices. Ten years ago I had the time (and needs) to tweak my phone, nowedays I just wan…

Its not about tweaking. Its about having full Unix shell or ability to change DNS settings.

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Post by Ayaz »

Until some months ago, I had a factory unlocked iPhone 5 which I used for 2+ years. I had no reason to switch to a more recent model, other than the (at times) nagging need for the finger-print lock. Then, out of the blue, the battery on my iPhone began to malfunction, in that, it would only let the phone stay on for a couple of minutes unless it was plugged constantly to a power source.

I bought an iPhone 6S, space gray, factory unlocked at around $650 (excluding tax). I sent my iPhone 5 back to Apple for a recycle. They gave me $200 in iTunes gift money. So, all in all, I got a new iPhone 6S for $450 (excluding tax).

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Post by jonathankoren »

digi_owl wrote: post #297
orbitur wrote: post #227

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3D Touch should've replaced long press. I hate that I have to wait, I don't care that it's 0.4 of a second. A long press is a concession to the fact that there's no physical button, and 3D Touch should've solved this problem. But instead I end up triggering a 3D Touch when I want to delete an app.

What surprises me is that they didn't try to use it to make the keyboard more "physical". If the OSK can distinguish a finger resting from a finger pressing, then you get closer to that of a physical keyboard. Especially if the resting part can be tied in with the vibration engine to give a slight nudge to indicate edges of keys, or some such.

The problem with converting the keyboard to 3d presses, is that goes against almost 10 years of user expectations. If I had to press harder to type a letter, I'd think something was wrong.

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Post by bluesign »

ericabiz wrote: post #14
johansch wrote: post #6

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(Lots of interesting data; upvoted.) > It's $79 for us to fix an iPhone 5/5C/5S screen right now Interesting, since I have a 5s with a broken screen glass that I haven't bothered getting fixed yet. :) It used to be quite a bit more, I think? Have you figured out how to separate the glass (etc) from the actual display, or have replacement display+glass packages just gotten cheaper? (If you are replacing the display -…

All depends on the cost of parts. Part cost is very low right now...I advise people to get it fixed ASAP if they have the money! You never know what it will do--part cost bounces around like the stock market. Last year it bounced really high there for a bit, and now it's come back down. The backlight, LCD, digitizer (touch "web"), and top glass are all one piece. They come bonded from the factory. I never recommend g…

"there is very little difference between an OEM display and the ones repair shops sell."

I burned by this, all was looking good till I try to used with my polarized sunglasses, it was probably cheap screen, with wrong polarization, which you see nothing with glasses.

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Post by auggierose »

gjvc wrote: post #404
barrkel wrote: post #400

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The 5X is slower in single thread code than the Nexus 5 from 2013. It has 6 rather than 4 cores but not many apps can take advantage.

Nexus 5 is one of the all-time greats of the smartphone era.

Yep. I got one too, and see no need to upgrade anytime soon.

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Post by epalmer »

I just upgraded from being a long time iPhone user to a nexus6p and an delighted. Most of the UI makes more sense to me. The camera is amazing and the integration with Google apps as first class apps is a positive. Being able to voice command the device without a power cord plugged in is an added benefit. I can't imagine going back to iPhones.

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Post by adav »

Apple's probably just biding its time with the iPhone while it works to soup-up the Apple Watch - add cellular, more power, more battery, smaller package.

I reckon the iPhone (and maybe iPad) will transition into just a dumb accessory screens.

My thinking is that this follows the trend: Desktop (power on your desk) -> Laptop (power in your bag) -> Smartphone (power in your pocket) -> Watch? (power on your person)

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