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I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by jessriedel »

lewisl9029 wrote: post #165
mortenjorck wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you click on the article? All your points, while valid in a vacuum, have nothing to do with the author's argument about the two platforms' approaches to web apps. I appreciate and even agree with your view, but you might as well be talking about OS X versus Windows given the topic of the submitted post.

Threads like these (completely off-topic, but somehow ends up at the top and takes up 1/4 of the page) are why I wish the official HN client could collapse threads.

HN Collapse also is a chrome extension that does the job.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-collap...

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by zanny »

rhodysurf wrote: post #178
krzrak wrote: post #170

Sidenote: I checked the Google's Project Fi - damn, it's expensive. For $20/month you get unlimited calls and texts, but you have to pay extra $10 for every 1GB of data. Here in Poland for $10 I get the same unlimited calls and texts plus 4GB of LTE included (and then you're limited to 1 Mbps - but you can take the $13 plan and get unlimited GBs too).

Its pretty cheap by US standards.

You can get 1GB of 4G and unlimited 3G on Freedompop for $20, or unlimited everything (inc 4G) for about ~$70 on Sprint / T-Mobile.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by zanny »

takno wrote: post #110
t3ra wrote: post #89

I am always surprised when people say things like CHROME is bringing X API. Take a look at these HTML5 Web APIs : https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API They have been here since sometime now! and Mozilla built a whole operating system around them which is has "Progressive Web Apps" in its core!

Primarily because Firefox on Android doesn't yet support any of the technology being discussed in the article, or indeed most of the technologies on the page you linked to.

It has great webrtc support, at least. It also supports Firefox Market Apps being installed with native app launchers and views.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by zanny »

exabrial wrote: post #92

Galaxy S7 is far superior to any of the iPhones. Take it outside in the rain

Samsung is even learning from Apple with the locked bootloaders and no root. Why have users own the devices you sell them when you can just keep owning them while people pay for them?

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by mifrai »

banhfun wrote: post #180
krzrak wrote: post #170

Sidenote: I checked the Google's Project Fi - damn, it's expensive. For $20/month you get unlimited calls and texts, but you have to pay extra $10 for every 1GB of data. Here in Poland for $10 I get the same unlimited calls and texts plus 4GB of LTE included (and then you're limited to 1 Mbps - but you can take the $13 plan and get unlimited GBs too).

That's pretty good compared to other service providers. Also, if you pay for more data than you use, you get refunded whatever amount to didn't use e.g. I bought 4 GB of data but only used 1.2, so I get refunded $28. The downside to Project Fi is that you need to buy a Nexus 5X to get in, and there's significantly less coverage than Verizon.

If it helps, currently if you buy the Nexus 5X from Project Fi, it is about $150 cheaper than retail (Google Store) value.

https://fi.google.com/about/phones/ - 16GB $199 / 32GB $249

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by zanny »

I'm actually going to be on topic off topic, but I seriously hope that somehow we have celestial alignment and QML can somehow take off as the defacto networked app standard. HTML/CSS/JS is a document format, styling for said documents, and a language cooked up in a week to bake into a browser in the 90s. And the 90s language is the best part!

QML is ground up meant to write interfaces in, and provide all kinds of critical functionality you would want on everything from mobile to televisions to toasters to your desktop:

* Hardware acceleration everywhere.

* DPI scaling.

* Ability to write controls in native C++ or as composite elements in QML itself.

* Signals and slots throughout all aspects of the framework, instead of callback hell.

* Intuitive and first class animations support.

* Native look and feel on almost all platforms through the Controls API, with the ability to restyle them however you want.

* All aspects of the framework support network transparency. You can associate resources remotely or locally, and all the necessary properties to track loading and downloading are available, and the API handles component loading from web services much more intuitively than HTML script / css loading.

I love QML a lot, and there is even a project called qmlweb to run it in the browser, but I really want to see http://test.org/app.qml be a thing. Having written my share of web applications and QML ones, I have no idea why anyone thinks spreading the design disaster of the traditional web to encompass all user software is the best we can achieve.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by smadge »

jodrellblank wrote: post #400
smadge wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An item that can't be maintained is an dark pattern. It is a sign of planned obsolescence. It is goes against the interests of the user. Items should be designed to have long lifetimes. This only doesn't happen because capitalism incentives manufacturers to sell consumers a new product as often as possible. There is no reason an item can't be user friendly, reliable, and maintainable.

An item that can't be maintained is a light pattern. It is a demonstration of confidence in good design and engineering; longevity for as long as an item is useful, but no longer. It is in the interests of the user to do away with the costs and complexities of making something maintainable and the consequent obligation to do maintenance . This only doesn't work well because once something reaches a reasonable 'end of…

When my teeth start to rot I get them fixed at the dentist, then start to maintain my teeth by brushing them. If I get a wound on my arm, I wash it and apply bandages, not finalize my will and kill myself. When your toilet gets clogged, you plunge it, not buy a new toilet. When your carpet gets worn out you replace it, not tear down the whole house and buy a new one. If the RAM on your computer fails, you buy new RAM and install it, not scrap the entire computer and buy a new one. Absolutely, ideally everything would run perfectly forever without intervention, but disorder is inevitable in this world.

Without intervention, the artefacts of civilization would literally crumble within decades. With proper maintenance, a building could last for centuries, a car for decades, a computer or phone I would hope for at least 5 years.

Our throwaway culture is threatening our existence via environmental degradation. We're in the middle of a mass extinction, and climate change could literally end life on Earth. We need to consider the long term sustainability of our economy, way of life, and civilization.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by username223 »

lewisl9029 wrote: post #165
mortenjorck wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you click on the article? All your points, while valid in a vacuum, have nothing to do with the author's argument about the two platforms' approaches to web apps. I appreciate and even agree with your view, but you might as well be talking about OS X versus Windows given the topic of the submitted post.

Threads like these (completely off-topic, but somehow ends up at the top and takes up 1/4 of the page) are why I wish the official HN client could collapse threads.

I've long used something called "hckr news" in Safari, which collapses both subthreads and whole threads. It almost makes the site pleasant to use.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by hrktb »

kalleboo wrote: post #407
hrktb wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On iOS Keychain works relatively well for Safari, but needs to be explicitely supported for native apps, which means basically never. Also as far as I know there's no first party app to directly view your keychain items in iOS, which makes it useless when the domain detection fails (it's the most painful when the same service has two clearly different domains for desktop web and mobile web, which is a pretty common c…

> Also as far as I know there's no first party app to directly view your keychain items in iOS, which makes it useless when the domain detection fails They fixed that in either iOS 8 or 9, there's now a "Other Passwords..." option that lets you browse/free-text search through all your saved passwords.

Yes, this definitely improved the situation, but I think there is still big limitations on what you have access to.

Perhaps some of the entries are not marked as web passwords, and/or it is limited to the passwords Safari has saved (Chrome or firefox passwords would get ignored for instance). I have hundreds of entries in my keychain and "Other Passwords..." won't display most of them.

As a behavior, it doesn't bother me much if Safari wouldn't get automatic access to other apps' keychain entries or generic passwords (from a security perspective it's a sensible limitation). Instead I would like a separate keychain app, mirroring the abilities of the OSX app.

Re: I switched to Android after 7 years of iOS

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Post by jagger27 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #365
johncolanduoni wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Nexus 9 is a tablet, and the 5X and 6P were released within a month of each other. So they're all pretty relevant, and are targeted at different markets.

Within a month? Wasn't it a simultaneous launch?

6P availability was rocky for a while, but yes, it was simultaneous.
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