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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by mhomde »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #240
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

In all fairness I know many people who love to draw on the Surface and really wanted a more precise pen type of input on the iPad; I think this was a long time coming and really necessary. The keyboard cover thing? Sure I could agree with you on that. I actually think Surface did a better job with it especially with the adjustable kickstand but we'll see when I can actually touch and play with the iPad Pro one.

Yeah, the Mac book is really huge within certain tech/creative circles and not in a million years would they get a windows machine (well,a few do albeit very reluctantly).

Every mac illustrator worth his salt is going to throw money at the screen to get this and I'm sure many many apps for the pen aren't far behind. Smart move by Apple

The enterprise market is more tricky... I can see some fancy plastic surgery office having iPad Pro's but when it comes to "less sexy" enterprise uses I still think Surface and Windows might be ahead

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by mythz »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #414
mythz wrote: post #402

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File Systems is also a complexity that confuses a lot of non-technical people, which is why Apple tries to hide that one even exists on iOS - Where can I find the latest document I was working on? Just open the app you created it with, as a bonus you'll get transparent syncing across all your devices. Syncing and Backup are tedial tasks most people wouldn't do if they needed to do it manually or configure an external…

It's one thing to have a persistent object store instead of a file system (as the Newton did). It's wholly another to have a file system at the core of your OS but just pretend it doesn't exist. That's a regressive obfuscation, not encapsulation. (Yes, I understand who the target audience is.)

Apple's primary focus is on UX simplicity and Customers couldn't care less how it's implemented behind the scenes, they just want to get stuff done, find the Word document they were working on or see the Photo or Video they just took.

The less Customers have to know about how technology works the happier they are, and the more successful Apple is.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by vacri »

revscat wrote: post #55
wnevets wrote: post #35

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> While I do agree Jobs was saying that no one wants to use a stylus to use their devices, you have to admit this stylus is a pretty good idea. The apple distortion field is running at maximum.

No. No one wants to be required to use a stylus to successfully use a device. This is true, and remains so. What has become apparent is that there is a need -- especially for artists -- for a tool more fine-grained than a finger if you want to do more complicated tasks.

Nice injection of the word 'required' there...

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by happyscrappy »

dragonwriter wrote: post #410
happyscrappy wrote: post #375

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The asymmetry is that haters are not really interested and just shit all over the discussion.

That's not asymmetry. The lovers are also not really interested in discussion and are just as prone to pollute it with blind positivity as the haters are to do so with blind negativity.

The lovers, while possibly blinded, are at least interested in the details.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by icebraining »

rhodysurf wrote: post #287
royka118 wrote: post #158

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My girlfriend have me have already decided to get one so we can watch Iplayer and YouTube in bed. We already use an iPad but our number one complaint is its too small!

Youre going to spend that much money for youtube? Couldn't you do the same with a 35 dollar chromecast?

Not everyone has a TV in the bedroom already.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by comex »

austenallred wrote: post #320
notNow wrote: post #317

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So what's with all this silly frivolous litigation by Apple over "swipe to unlock" and "rounded corners" if it's OK to copy or steal from each other?

I don't speak for Apple. I think those are bullshit.

They are also mostly over.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by Tenobrus »

aianus wrote: post #183
Xcelerate wrote: post #42

I don't understand the allure of a "pro" iPad. Wouldn't you just want a laptop then? The keyboard is (at least for me) the fastest accurate text input device ever invented. It's the main reason I type everything instead of write it by hand.

I wish this thing existed when I was studying math in school. It's not practical to do math with a keyboard.

I've found LaTeX pretty practical. Not quite as easy as handwriting, but practical enough. Once I got enough practice I have access to the documents everywhere, don't have to worry about my horrible handwriting, and can copy-paste equations into Wolfram Alpha to check correctness. An editor with customizable key commands helps too. Took me about two months to get fast enough, but now I use LaTeX for basically all note taking and homework.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by bitwize »

soylentcola wrote: post #149
mmahemoff wrote: post #43

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This quote - The whole of Twitter right now But, this is just an accessory. See also: beats headphones, smart case. Unlike the comedy "smartphone" attempts of 2005 which Steve Jobs was alluding to, you may still freely use your fingers.

Comedy "smartphone" attempts? I had a couple of smart phones before the iPhone came out and they offered several things it didn't. The fact that capacitive touchscreens and GPU acceleration weren't as good yet doesn't make them "comedy attempts". More like the incremental developments that provided the base which the iPhone was built upon. Ignoring the fact that it's all moot now, I was doing GPS navigation, multitas…

There are two kinds of personal computing products in any era:

* Blatant copies of some Apple product

* Rough prototypes of some future Apple product

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by egypturnash »

mhomde wrote: post #421
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In all fairness I know many people who love to draw on the Surface and really wanted a more precise pen type of input on the iPad; I think this was a long time coming and really necessary. The keyboard cover thing? Sure I could agree with you on that. I actually think Surface did a better job with it especially with the adjustable kickstand but we'll see when I can actually touch and play with the iPad Pro one.

Yeah, the Mac book is really huge within certain tech/creative circles and not in a million years would they get a windows machine (well,a few do albeit very reluctantly). Every mac illustrator worth his salt is going to throw money at the screen to get this and I'm sure many many apps for the pen aren't far behind. Smart move by Apple The enterprise market is more tricky... I can see some fancy plastic surgery offic…

I wonder how long it'll take AstroPad (http://astropad.com) to support the Apple Pencil.

I'm an illustrator and this is definitely on my list. I am not a big fan of drawing where I'm looking any more, but Astropad + an ipad Pro will let me work in Illustrator in a cramped environment.

And maybe in a couple of years we'll finally get an Air/iPad Pro hybrid. Like the Surface, except running OSX.

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Post by zimpenfish »

mamon wrote: post #398
camillomiller wrote: post #366

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This comment is exactly why HN won't never understand anything about Apple announcements. Highly technical folks, unable to get out of their technical bias, reprimanding the extremely successful decision makers of a successful company because they pretend to know the matter, while completely ignoring the real world scenarios that actually drive Apple products sales.

It is not a "technical bias", it is more your bias towards Apple. Take the last year's iPhone 6 as an example: HN members complained about small screen sizes for a long time, and it took Steve Job's death to actually make that happen, but gues what? iPhone 6 is most succesfull iPhone ever. Apple did some innovations few years ago (original iPhone, iPad), but since then most of new features in Apple products are taken…

> iPhone 6 is most succesfull iPhone ever.

They did a lot of background work getting the OS and UIKit and developers up to speed for supporting multiple device sizes - necessary for introducing bigger screens - and I would suggest that played a large part in making the 6 successful. People weren't getting a crappy scaled experience from the apps they already knew.

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