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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Ads on Brave are opt-in (and not embedded on webpages anyway) and the "crypto nonsense" is a way for them to try to stay afloat without having to accept money from Google and the likes.

They are opt-out, not opt-in. Big difference.

Opt-in. Someone else linked Brave's blog below. Read it.

https://support.brave.app/hc/en-us/articles/38305898674957-H...

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They don't do it for every extension, but they do so for a wide selection of popular options. > Recommended extensions differ from other extensions that are regularly reviewed by Firefox staff in that they are curated extensions that meet the highest standards of s…

I’m a huge fan of Mozilla and Firefox specifically, but I don’t think that the way classical adblock extensions are made is the right way. Instead, it should be done as Apple/Safari do it [1]: the browser provides an API to hook/set a block list of identifiers that should be blocked, it could be resource hostnames, html signatures, need to think how to improve the API, but this way it’s completely safe, extension has…

One of my biggest annoyances about my iPad is how much less effective the content blockers on Safari are than on real Firefox and ublock origin that I have on my Android phone and had on my previous windows tablet. Also iOS “Firefox” can’t run any adblockers, whether ublock origin or iOS content blockers so I have to use Safari and put up without consent-o-matic or tab sync

For example, ublock origin is able to patch out anti-adblock scripts that Safari content blockers cannot. Try tvtropes for an example. Works fine with firefox and ublock origin, displays a “allow ads of subscribe” instead of the content on safari.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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With a normal Firefox on desktop on Linux, I get unsolvable recaptchas all the time, especially on cloudflare pages. Ironically, if I fake instead a chromium to be on Windows (UA and Sec-CH headers), I am allowed most of the time even though my TCP fingerprint must mismatch then. It's annoying to see what the normal web has become. Can't even read news anymore. Ironically, all these bot defenses make it easier for bo…

> I get unsolvable recaptchas all the time, especially on cloudflare pages. If you really mean reCAPTCHA (the one with a “select all squares that have X” kinda challenges), then Cloudflare hasn’t used that for quite a while now. archive.today uses a Cloudflare-looking (old style) page with a reCAPTCHA (and they do serve it quite often), but I don’t think I’ve seen other sites do that.

No you can get literally unsolveable captchas with cloudflare. You tick the box and it just refreshes and displays the unticked box again. Or people it on gateway endpoints that just return plain text errors (Humble does this).

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

> Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that Hate to be the one to defend Google here, but the reasons weren't that unreasonable. I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. The declarative API idea is pretty good. It's just that uBlock Origin is so insanely useful, important and trusted, it should get full access to the entire browser regardless. Honestly, it should…

>it should be literally built into the browser

Orion does this. It's still a little too rough around the edges to recommend as a daily driver though.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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I often forget how browsing the web looks for most people. Can't understand why they put up with it, or do they just think that it's part and parcel of the internet to have every page look like a slot machine from hell?

I just live in the world where most things are crap.

People put up pages because they want to express themselves and/or receive views or engagement.

AI kills the first half, and trying to sell my attention kills the second half.

I don't stick around for it. I click into "the secret romantic lives of elephants", hit popup hell, then realise I really didn't care. I often can't even remember what I clicked on as soon as I hit back.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #202

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Probably just resources. Mozilla has to vet each update to give them the "recommended" badge and so they probably focus on the most popular extensions

They should have vetted ViolentMonkey instead of TamperMonkey the last time around.

> Tampermonkey - Rating 4.7 (5,306 reviews) - 760,294 Users

> Violentmonkey - Rating 4.7 (793 reviews) - 164,622 Users

On Google Web Store, it's 11,000,000 users VS 900,000 users.

Their popularity seems different by a magnitude, hardly surprising Firefox/Mozilla would chose to focus on one above the other.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #391

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Because they want a level of plausible deniability.

The way uBO works already provides a layer of plausible deniability. It's just a content blocker that loads filter lists maintained by other people.

I'm not sure if you responded to the wrong comment, but the gpp was suggesting building it in by default.

If Firefox included it by default then it would remove a layer of deniability.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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For those who use uBlock Origin Lite, have you noticed any issues/deficiencies in what ads are blocked? I haven't.

Haven't noticed any issue, the main limitation is the lack of mobile support on Chrome, but that has always been the case.

I'm so grateful for Firefox on Android

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Websites already can barely be assed to care about supporting Firefox users, doing adblocking by default is a great way to get websites to start putting up banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" en-masse. And Mozilla did develop anti-fingerprinting tech, but they can't enable it by default because it breaks lots of websites and when a website doesn't work they're not g…

> start putting up banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" That's how IE 6 was killed.

The final death of IE6 was because corporates finally stopped using it⁰ and the reason for that had nothing to do with sites/apps refusing to work. If we'd said "we don't support IE6" they'd either say "the contract we signed years ago somehow says otherwise" or "fair enough, we'll use someone else's solution then".

What killed it was IE6 not supporting TLS1.0 out of the box or TLS1.1+ at all, and that started to make them fail external audits. After years of telling them IE6 was holding us back implementing best-practise security on their instances of our apps¹ and being ignored because doing anything about it their side was too much hassle, external auditors started refusing to give them relevant certificates & such because of their systems not being up to best practise (or even good practise by that point!) and suddenly they made the effort to no longer have anyone in their orgs using IE6.

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[0] source: I was working on software serving the banking industry (customer facing & investment sides, not trading) around that time and years either side

[1] Even having annual conversations like:

    ! The pen test results say you should disable anything below TLS1.0 (and later 1.1), and you haven't. Please do. 
    ? Are you sure? We'd *really* like to, as we've repeatedly mentioned, but that will block your IE6 users.
    ! Yes! You must follow the recommendations!
    ? Excellent. Done.
    [a short time passes]
    ! Your application is broken for some of our users!
    ? Yep. They are using IE6 without TLS enabled. 
    ? Either you need to upgrade their configurations or tell us, in writing please, to break from best practise and reenable the older protocols.
    [another short time later]
    ! Please reenable the older protocols.
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