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A.I. companies are recruiting electricians and carpenters by the thousands

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Not for long. 1-2 economic cycles and oil and gas will probably be 20-40% of what they are now. Useful to keep in mind when choosing a new career.

We're heading into a period where you need to adapt your life to a career on a dime, and be ready to switch again. SW engineering is going away.

No, it won't. Unless we AGI, which we won't with LLMs.

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I said the pay sucks, not the profit. Owning a residential electrical company is lucrative because they pay their electricians substandard wages.

It’s not possible for the standard wage to be substandard.

Fine, non-union residential contractors pay lower wages than union contractors.

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There is zero wood in a data center (or commercial building in general) excluding doors, millwork, and fire-rated plywood for mounting equipment on. It’s simply not allowed. Data center are tip-up warehouses with walls made of reinforced concrete, metal bar joists, metal columns, and metal roofs. Any interior wall framing is made of steel.

>There is zero wood in a data center. Pretty broad generalisation. Theres no wood on the data floor of a Tier 4 datacenter. I am not convinced that every DC being built as a result of AI demand is going to be a brilliant T4 datacenter. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if theres a lot of shit going on in the US, which from my admittedly limited experience has some really shithouse datacenters as it is. Theres a small DC…

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Re: A.I. companies are recruiting electricians and carpenters by the thousands

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There is zero wood in a data center (or commercial building in general) excluding doors, millwork, and fire-rated plywood for mounting equipment on. It’s simply not allowed. Data center are tip-up warehouses with walls made of reinforced concrete, metal bar joists, metal columns, and metal roofs. Any interior wall framing is made of steel.

>There is zero wood in a data center. Pretty broad generalisation. Theres no wood on the data floor of a Tier 4 datacenter. I am not convinced that every DC being built as a result of AI demand is going to be a brilliant T4 datacenter. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if theres a lot of shit going on in the US, which from my admittedly limited experience has some really shithouse datacenters as it is. Theres a small DC…

> Pretty broad generalization

Pretty bad quoting of my post

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Please don't sneer at groups/categories of people like this. Even if it was true (obviously it isn't; many in the software industry have been laid off in recent years), it's still unkind and inflammatory. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: A.I. companies are recruiting electricians and carpenters by the thousands

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> How do you not think AI will not destroy programming jobs if anyone can type to create anything they want or share your screen with Codex and have it guide you via voice? Extrapolate that to any other engineering or even medical discipline and you will understand that your conclusion has some flaws.

Well i guess there are two sides of table / arguement. Im on the side of believing the hype of the AI overlords who promote UBI not cause I don't want to work because I personally experience and see it slowly playing out now.

Careful with UBI. What they are thinking is reshuffling/re-branding Medicaid/Food Stamps/Housing voucher, etc, into one lump sum that just like the current welfare, will barely be enough to keep you alive.

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>There is zero wood in a data center. Pretty broad generalisation. Theres no wood on the data floor of a Tier 4 datacenter. I am not convinced that every DC being built as a result of AI demand is going to be a brilliant T4 datacenter. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if theres a lot of shit going on in the US, which from my admittedly limited experience has some really shithouse datacenters as it is. Theres a small DC…

> Pretty broad generalization Pretty bad quoting of my post

I could have quoted the whole thing wouldn't change what I said.

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Yes, yes, Christians will "strive" to do better, but never really have try that hard, because you know, it's never gonna be "good enough" anyway, therefore accept that you will do "sometimes-woops" fucked up things, and then just ask for forgiveness (but never actually do anything). The incentive structure is set up to produce bad people. Kind of reminds of the sight where MMA fighters brutally mash some dudes head i…

You're right in plenty of what you're saying, that's why I'd recommend you reading Romans and James in the Bible. But stuff like "but never really have try that hard" and "(but never actually do anything)" are your own assumptions and silly ones at that, you're putting too many people in the same bucket. > If they represent themselves through inaction, they are virtually equivalent - equally as bad. In regards to Nei…

> Same for non-Christian people, mind you.

Yes, but with Christians there's always some sort of thick-layer of self-serving dishonesty on top of it all.

Imagine a person goes out of his way and really helps you out in a tough situation, would you rather have it:

1. Be a person who does it out of his own volition - out of his own will and mind decided to do that - because that's the right thing to do!

2. Be a person who did it, because a book told him to do so - under a threat of violence no less (being tortured in hot lava!)

I'd always take (1) over somebody who's operating held at gunpoint (2) - threatened with torture for misbehaving.

> But ultimately it comes down to: Christ died on the cross to pay for your sins. Are you going to accept that, repent, and follow Him? or are you going to disregard it?

This is not a free choice! This is thinly veiled threat of violence!

And what happens if I "disregard it" (It being what exactly? Also - what sins?)?

Ah, yes, you get tortured in lake of fire!

The whole thing is just layers and layers of manipulative dishonesty stacked on top of each other.

Re: A.I. companies are recruiting electricians and carpenters by the thousands

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Good intrpduction are Veritasium videos: "How Electricity Actually Works" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_X2cMHNe0 "The Biggest Misconception About Electricity" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHIhgxav9LY

One cannot simply bring up Veritasium without also honouring his arch nemesis ElectroBOOM. https://youtube.com/@electroboom?si=HqjCoJtrn6ci41uw Others that deserve a mention: styropyro https://youtube.com/@styropyro?si=aPBPXdj42Oo0UzC2 The Angry Pixie herder, Uncle Bumblefuck aka AvE: https://youtube.com/@arduinoversusevil2025?si=f1LHLwVdQTn0O8... And that guy with the multi gigawatt 150,000 volt Lorentz Cannon: http…

So pretty much the recommendations on the right we are all aware of already..
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