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Post by thisisidiotic »

dv_dt wrote: post #165
torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

I feel like we went through something similar to this early in the era when Google's search engine was new. People posted engine results, but pretty quickly, people got tired of doing that, and would say google it. Part of that was if the answer was as easy as a google search away - the social validation became lower to negative if you just provided low effort copypasta service. Now, response of "google it" could be…

Then came ChaCha trying to monetize it.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

bauldursdev wrote: post #381
jvanderbot wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I hate about this whole thing, is that there are many reasons someone might reach out to a coworker with questions. Not all require the knowledge in fancy markdown with emojis. Maybe they want to show respect to a person by asking their opinion before proceeding with a change Maybe they want to share context and make that person aware of what they're thinking without being so obvious Maybe they need _that person…

Agree wholeheartedly. I have actually started introducing small idiosyncrasies into my text to make it clear that my words come from me and not a bot.

I accomplish the same thing by saying "fuck" a lot. :D

Edit: Who downed this!? Good god some of y'all need to touch some grass and live a little, none of us are getting out of here alive, relax for goodness sakes lol

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by totalhack »

The tiring part for me is the waiting and/or context switching to fill that time. When agents of this intelligence or better can get you results in seconds instead of minutes we can start thinking single threaded again and it will be more enjoyable.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by ChicagoDave »

I have five Gen-Z kids that are pushing back on GenAI hard and they claim their peers are getting angry about how it’s impacted their lives.

As a technologist I tend to lean into new things rapidly because that’s how I’ve survived in IT for so long. Since I’m not ready to retire I still have a vested interest in staying informed.

But the OP has definitely identified a psychological issue I think we’re all going through.

I’ve started pumping the brakes on Claude usage. Before I would invent a target to work on. Now I’m filtering existing tasks to needs and not spending nearly as much time in Claude.

I’d bet this is being felt by the AI companies and the correction we’ve been talking about is nearing.

GenAI is great as a tool. But it can’t be everything.

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Post by sriacha »

noiv wrote: post #349
wateralien wrote: post #53

One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and Portugal... eventually the cell towers went down and everyone just went to the parks and socialised. Connected with friends, strangers. Everyone was so in the moment because there was nowhere else to be, nothing else to distract them. People would pick up their phone and realise there was nothing there for them and put it back…

This has a name in literature: post disaster utopia, google it :)

'A Paradise Built in Hell' by Solnit is a good read about it

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Post by Tade0 »

mittensc wrote: post #179
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try prompting Claude to fix an arbitrary code base better than someone who knows it, when you're a random non-technical person. Try prompting Claude for legal advice and getting as good of results as Lawyer would if you're a layperson. Try prompting Claude for medical advice if you're not a doctor... I would hope these people are AT A MINIMUM screening the responses they get before passing them off. There's value in…

I find your comment a bit funny > Try prompting Claude to fix an arbitrary code base better than someone who knows it, when you're a random non-technical person. I've seen people employed working on some code bases that couldn't code at all. > Try prompting Claude for legal advice and getting as good of results as Lawyer would if you're a layperson. Some lawyers are downright incompetent and don't know what they're t…

> You'd generally find that out by vising another doctor and finding previous diagnostic was bullshit and you lost time.

To be fair the human body is immensely complex. Every specialist will look at everything through the lens of their field, as at the very least they can rule out some things this way.

I had a doctor judge that my tonsils need to be removed, but for unrelated reasons I went to two other and both of them figured it's not as bad yet.

The difference between them was generational, as the first practiced an approach from 30 years ago, back when tonsils were indeed commonly removed.

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Post by smerrill25 »

I remember late into my master's degree in a ethic's class about AI we had discussed the possibilities of the butterfly effect of not letting it transpire. He had given us a tricky word, and I don't remember what it was, but he asked us to create a definition for it.

I offered up an answer to my class, giving a reasonable enough answer for both my professor & colleagues to agree; however,

Another girl argued against me saying that she didn't believe it; and that she had a better one.

>granted she was significantly older

I said, "Why don't you believe it?"

"Let me ask chatgpt what I think, so I can come up with a clearer answer." She said.

"You can't use chatgpt to do that! This is about what you think, not about what chatGPT thinks."

"Yea," the professor interjected, "no chatGPT. You have to think for yourself y'know."

She got really quiet after that and offered a subpar answer against mine. And we continued class using my definition of the word.

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Post by liendolucas »

torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

If this is already happening among adults, what's left for the current or next generation? Kids that can no longer think by themselves? I believe this is really scary.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by coldpie »

butlike wrote: post #362

I agree and on my death bed I'm going to realize I spent my life working from home, talking to a machine, and not enriching any person's life directly. It's just so gruesomely LONELY.

There are still in-office jobs out there, where you can have lunch with humans, and maybe even make friends with your coworkers. I have one. It's not a popular opinion on this site, but it's OK to admit that being isolated home alone for 40+ hours a week is not healthy for your personality type.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by butlike »

bronco21016 wrote: post #333
sschueller wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them. I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first. EDIT: By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover…

I see a ton of this inherently lazy behavior. A big part of my job is supporting a ticket system for employees to ask questions about a pretty complex employment contract. The number of questions that come in where it's so clear the submitter didn't even attempt to answer on their own is dumb founding. Because of this work, I'm seen by many of my peers as a "guy with all the answers". A friend of mine recently asked…

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