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Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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I've worked for an American megacorp and the branch office of a Japanese company. The Japanese company felt a lot more humane on balance, though it doesn't express as well when I write it. The Japanese company had some rituals were a bit weird, but harmless/charmingly quaint like mandatory volunteer days, keeping a copy of the founder's precepts on my desk for executive walkthroughs. They also had some bad tendencies…

> The employer was constantly involving themselves with US national politics, but employees were expected to refrain from having political opinions of their own. During work hours or after work hours (for both)?

Both. Though it's a bit hard to meaningfully distinguish the two when the president is showing up for photoshoots and regular meetings are held on what government official X thinks on topic Y.

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> Can't find a proper piece of bread that isn't sweetened, or you find a French chain doing something almost similar but still not on par with breads found in France. Funny you mentioned France. Japan won the world pastry competition held in France. The french came second. How about that?

Japan as a country or a person from Japan? I still think that you'd find better French bread at any average French town than in Japan, given my personal experience living there. And sure maybe not upscale Tokyo but Japan is not just Tokyo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Pastry_Cup

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> Most citizens would prefer stability to growth, but I think the tradeoff has a lot of downstream consequences. People want personal stability, which in our current society means a stable job. That doesn't have to be the case, though. Overall, economic growth is good for society as a whole, so it makes sense that a state should encourage it as much as it can. This means that what is good for an individual is not the…

> Overall, economic growth is good for society as a whole, so it makes sense that a state should encourage it as much as it can. The problem with basing the language in the aggregate, is implies that distribution doesn’t matter, and all modern economic models agree. This is a big problem for the reality of people living in ever increasing inequality. Money is a competitive resource, we use it to bid for real resource…

I think that was the point I was trying to make, that both total economic output and distribution matter. Both matter in terms of overall citizen satisfaction.

If you have a very fair distribution of a very small productive output, everyone will be miserable because they don’t have enough to live. At the same time, producing a ton that only goes to a select few will also leave most people miserable.

We don’t want to go to either extreme. We want to find the best way to foster productivity while making sure everyone benefits from that productivity.

My suggestion is that you get the best of both by letting competition and innovation be rewarded, while also taking care of the ‘losers’ in that competition.

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> they live a far more deprived life It took me a minute to figure out the typo ("depraved" instead of "deprived") Japan compares much better to the US in terms of how much wealth the top 1% control. 24.6% vs 34.8% according to https://wid.world Graph here: https://imgur.com/a/UwWvaHW

That is true, but at this point in time, looking at wealth inequality in the US for comparison feels pointless, as the US can't be seen as a humanoid society anymore. By that I mean the riches of the Top 1%, and the "soon" attitude of the bottom 80% in the US feel alien, surreal, and perverted to an extent it stopped being useful as a measure for humans.

If you look at the graph I linked, you can see that the world average for that statistic has consistently been higher compared to the US, though the two series have been converging lately. So according to that data the US has not been uniquely unfair, but it has been getting worse.

I do think there will have to be large changes soon.

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It’s always fascinating to see how Westerners idealize Japan on platforms like HN. It makes me wonder(i'm korean): how would a Westerner react if they saw me romanticizing the Mondragon cooperatives in Spain? They’d probably find it strange and out of touch with reality. This essay on Japan's corporate diversification and physical tacit knowledge is an interesting read. However, as an East Asian, my assessment is tha…

I’m not sure what you’re on about Mondragon is the ideal organization

I’ve been promoting it and its organizational structure for a decade on this website and I’m one of the oldest members on HN

Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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It’s always fascinating to see how Westerners idealize Japan on platforms like HN. It makes me wonder(i'm korean): how would a Westerner react if they saw me romanticizing the Mondragon cooperatives in Spain? They’d probably find it strange and out of touch with reality. This essay on Japan's corporate diversification and physical tacit knowledge is an interesting read. However, as an East Asian, my assessment is tha…

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Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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> they live a far more deprived life It took me a minute to figure out the typo ("depraved" instead of "deprived") Japan compares much better to the US in terms of how much wealth the top 1% control. 24.6% vs 34.8% according to https://wid.world Graph here: https://imgur.com/a/UwWvaHW

Depends what you mean by "control". If you don't own a nice house, car, driver etc. but your company just happens to provide it as a perk, then you still have it.

That's a fair point. Is it actually common for CEOs to live on a company property? I can see how transport would be company controlled.

Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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Yeah not everyone is a reader these days

Not only is that implication rude, it's just not true. I am at least in the 95th percentile of amount of reading. I just think the article is poorly written. Not everyone is a good writer these days (or any days).

the article is pure garbage. most articles are. i love reading but your average article writer is just not a good writer. it’s 90% fluff

Re: Why Japanese companies do so many different things

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Look at the best pizza place in the world, the best burger maker in the world.. they are not in Italy or America, but in Tokyo. That's a bold claim. While I'm sure the average quality in Japan is significantly better than ours, I would put the best pizza places in Jersey, NYC, and CT up against anywhere in the world.

It’s all kinda silly because there’s a “quantity is quality” thing going on with pizza and a lot of “commoner food”. But Tokyo has a loooooooot of good food from various places, and a lot of people with money willing to spend 5 bucks a slice (for example). Or at least enough to sustain one restaurant. The contrapositive: what magical thing exists in Jersey that would not be exportable to Tokyo? I would bet that NYC h…

I bet that NYC has the most variety in the world and therefore more likely that something is the most optimal across various scales of measurement
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