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Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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The G9 was completely new to me. Sure I could try to figure it, but I'd rather be focusing on the things I care about. This is the thing that I'd historically procrastinate. To quote Adam Grant, "Procrastination is an emotional management problem not a time management problem"

Search "light bulb base types," you'll get a page showing what they all look like, G9 among them. I get that it's useful (and it's amazing it can do this), but it hardly seems enough to justify calling it "so much easier."

Sorry, this was one small example. Yes, the lightbulb by itself isn't hard, but when you have a full-time job, long commute, and are a parent these little friction points add up. Yes I can drive 30-minutes each way to take this to a hardware store to have someone knowledgeable help me or I can order it online.

There are so many examples of this. Removing small friction points that significantly make me happier and my life better. It means I have time to go grab a beer with friends instead of driving. The lightbulb was a recent example so it was fresh in my mind.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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I cannot stress how much the deep internal Apple loyalists loathe Woz. I personally find him one of the best parts of (old) Apple, and it’s a shame the company internally continues to think of him as a loose cannon.

Having worked at Apple, any event where he was present was completely packed.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Pray elaborate.

Because, in practice, it turns telling people what they want to hear into a first-class virtue. >> "We told him about how our land had been stolen and our people were dying. When we finished he shook our hands and said, 'Endeavor to persevere!' ... We thought about it for a long time, 'Endeavor to persevere.' And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union."

In this case, yes, a bunch of college students probably don't want to hear that AI is taking their job. Probably good to read the room, and it is used with your meaning.

But I also think there's an alternate meaning which is "this is not the correct time for this" (with an implicit "there will be a better time"). If your friend is upset they got laid off at their job, it's not the right time to start telling them about your promotion. Read the room, man! You can wait.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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>have AI actual intelligence

AI stands for artificial intelligence. Trying to give it an opposite meaning just is going to confuse everyone.

>Is there a way we can duplicate a routine a trillion times and have it work like a brain? AI is one of those attempts.

AI is not trying to recreate a brain. It is trying to implement intelligence. GPT works nothing like the brain works.

This is typical for a university though. All they do is teach you things that are not really true. If you asked AI what AI stood and what it means you will get a much better answer than this Steve guy.

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Religion is a lot broader than Christian fundamentalism and zealots. It's sort of like applied philosophy: how do you live a flourishing life in relationship to other people and to the god(s). Modernity has an implicit materialist worldview (matter is all that is) and an explicit rejection of the divine. However, if matter is all there is, then there is no meaning in the world. This is not a way to flourish in the wo…

The modern west is still very religious, they just switched to a new religion without a mascot. If you don’t believe me, explain to me how human rights, universal equality, democracy etc are based in science. You can’t, because they aren’t. Sorry for blaspheming. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do them, by the way, it just means that it’s our religion to do them.

> it just means that it’s our religion to do them.

No, "religion" is the wrong word for that. "Ideology" might be more what you are referring to, something like "societal philosophical principles".

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In the US, the politicians need money to be elected in the first place, and a lot of it. Lots of money comes from the big tech (to both parties), and the big tech won't give money to anyone with a plan to "rein them in."

"Citizens United" might be the most ironic name in the history of western democracy.

Do you know what the Citizens United organization wanted to do? Why didn’t they have a right to do it?

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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Unsurprising he'd be cheered for saying what they wanted to hear. But perhaps whether or not his stance is correct, the students needed to hear this. They (we) have to believe human brains still have value and find a way out; for otherwise there'd be no point to try anymore.

>the students needed to hear this.

I thought that was the objective of these celebrity speeches.

Re: Steve Wozniak cheered after telling students they have AI – actual intelligence

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I don't know what to say. I may not like it, you may not think it's actually intelligent, you may not think it's going to change the world - but how can you not see that this is revolutionary?

No. Nondeterministic output is not revolutionary. Technology forced down our throats by a few companies and executives who are licking their lips at the idea of laying off people, even if laying those people off means garbage products, is not revolutionary. Slop is not revolutionary. Perhaps what people forget is that every great product builds on the past in a way to improve it. Buggy software and lame copywriting a…

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