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Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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uejfiweun wrote: post #408
nomel wrote: post #404

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All nerds/top performers I know are that way because their dopamine pathways fire when they learn and/or perceive self progression. That's it. It's the same for artists and musicians. All these types will do what they do regardless. They can't help it .

I don't know about this one. For me, at least, the reward of "self progression" is intimately tied to external systems. I would not care about getting better at programming if there wasn't a social and financial reward attached.

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the_af wrote: post #407
nomel wrote: post #404

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All nerds/top performers I know are that way because their dopamine pathways fire when they learn and/or perceive self progression. That's it. It's the same for artists and musicians. All these types will do what they do regardless. They can't help it .

Hm, anyone who's a nerd, artist or performer will tell you that's only partly true. There's intrinsic motivation, sure, but artists and performers also have an idealized audience in mind; someone to share with. It could be a spouse or family, it can be friends, but there's almost always someone. There is for me, for my performer friends and family, there's for musicians I know. Motivation is a fickle mistress. It can…

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Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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forgotaccount3 wrote: post #140
wincy wrote: post #19

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So who has driven the 1000x increased usage of AI in the past year or two? My mother is in her 60s and uses Gemini every day. These data centers aren’t being built for no reason.

> My mother is in her 60s and uses Gemini every day. If your mother is at all like my mother, she isn't burning through nearly as many tokens as developers who are utilizing AI effectively. Datacenters aren't being built for the handful of people using a hundred or two tokens a month but the fields where each user is utilizing 10k+

> she isn't burning through nearly as many tokens as developers who are utilizing AI effectively

I don't think this takes codex into account, but the 'What they’re using it for' section shows there's definitely a huge demand outside the use case of programming: https://openai.com/index/how-people-are-using-chatgpt/

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ryandrake wrote: post #377
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #63

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> Schmidt urged graduates to embrace freedom. > graduates embraced freedom and boo'd schmidt. Schmidt: No, not like that! I think that the deeper topic is that there is a sense of double-speak going around, they mean freedom but what they really mean is to use the word and its meaning and to attach it to their own goals, in this case AI because google has a vested interest in that.

Billionaires’ and businesses’ freedom to replace creative and white collar workers with obedient and 24/7-working AI.

Any time rich people talk about freedom, they mean rich people freedom.

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Post by nomel »

uejfiweun wrote: post #408
nomel wrote: post #404

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All nerds/top performers I know are that way because their dopamine pathways fire when they learn and/or perceive self progression. That's it. It's the same for artists and musicians. All these types will do what they do regardless. They can't help it .

I don't know about this one. For me, at least, the reward of "self progression" is intimately tied to external systems. I would not care about getting better at programming if there wasn't a social and financial reward attached.

Sounds like you're a professional software developer. Profession does not make a nerd. ;)

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LaGrange wrote: post #51
WilcoKruijer wrote: post #7

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I find this a weird comment. Isn't this the same kind of out of touch? I could write: > Kind of goes to show how out of touch and insular the Hackernews commenter sphere can be. Almost everyone I interact with in reality loves LLMs and their touted trajectory. And it would hold mostly true for me. This goes to show we should all be aware of our respective bubbles.

I mean normal people shun LLM users so it’s no wonder it’s true for you.

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let_rec wrote: post #52
10xDev wrote: post #9

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The numbers speak for itself. What has had the same level of user growth?

If I use Google Search to do a search and I get an AI answer that I scroll past, do I count an AI user? The numbers are not reliable.

Google search is not typically counted as consumer "AI usage" in the reports I've seen. They're comparing chat implementations.

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AlexeyBrin wrote: post #300
542458 wrote: post #119

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You could use ChatGPT/anthropic/etc signups as your proxy if you wanted, and those show similarly spectacular trajectories.

It is only spectacular because of the free tiers and the artificially lowered costs of the services. Put the real prices on the OpenAI and Anthropic services, remove the free tier and only than you will have a true picture of how many people are willing to pay to use it.

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Post by OrangeMusic »

berkay wrote: post #64
nilirl wrote: post #8

> Schmidt urged graduates to embrace freedom, open debate, equality and the willingness to engage with those they disagree with. I think it was a great embrace of freedom and open debate to boo him for only asserting predictions that benefit him.

It's not clear to me why they booed him. you think for only asserting predictions that benefit him? Not because they agree on those predictions and don't want that future, blame him for this role in it?

Honestly I think they're just booing at "AI" in general. He could have talked about any other topic. Imagine how graduates feel about AI.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by mapcars »

AlexeyBrin wrote: post #189
mapcars wrote: post #137

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I see AI exactly as what will help future generations, the possibilities it provides in terms of learning, research, analysis are huge. It confusing to me how people complain about jobs - there is no guarantee that any job will be there forever, there is no guarantee that current social and economic model will be there forever, things always change, you have to adapt, there is no other way.

> I see AI exactly as what will help future generations, the possibilities it provides in terms of learning, research, analysis are huge. Do you really think a 20 years old that is afraid of not finding a good job today cares about potential benefits 10 or 20 years from now ?

>Do you really think a 20 years old that is afraid of not finding a good job today

Someone who is afraid won't care about anything. The question is why are they afraid? Finding "good job" was never a guaranteed thing, its always better to prepare for the worst case, like having a basic job or no job at all.

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