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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Harness: opencode Subscription: opencode go I also use a claw agent[1] via Telegram, which uses pi.dev under the hood with my opencode go subscription. [1] I forked one of those Claw projects (bareclaw) and made many changes to it.

When you say harness what do you mean? I see the term thrown around a lot and I think it's lost its meaning in some fashion.

In this context it means the tool you use the models with. So Claude Code is a harness, OpenAI's codex, Opencode, pi, etc. Those are all cli harnesses

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I wouldn't be surprised if the AI usage model moves towards a bidder/auction model. Set how much you'd willing to pay for your AI request, and they evaluate requests starting from the highest to lowest bids.

It definitely would make sense, especially if they are capacity constrained, but it’s also a losing PR move for whoever moves first in the space unless the big players all shift at the same time.

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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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> we should judge a company by its actions Okay, then let's judge it by the fact that they started as a non-profit and now are are playing the same growth-at-all-costs playbook from Silicon Valley. Or let's judge them by how they they consider themselves above copyright law, and went on to US congress to say "we can not run this business without stealing intellectual property". Or how they they don't mind making deal…

If you do this judging on every S&P Company and make them "not exist" you'd end up with Mom & Pop shops as you'd be closing the whole joint :)

Why do you make it sound like it was a bad thing?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

on claude using bedrock it simply refuses to acknoweldge the existence of OpenClaw (Opus 4.7)

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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I wonder if projects which are anti-AI could place such identifiers surreptitiously into docs or commits as a way to sabotage people using Claude Code. Your project isn't going to get many AI PRs if just cloning your project wiped out their quota.

Currently I do this: ANTHROPIC_MAGIC_STRING_TRIGGER_REFUSAL_1FAEFB6177B4672DEE07F9D3AFC62588CCD2631EDCF22E8CCC1FB35B501C9C86 No clue if this is useful. https://github.com/SublimeText/Modelines/blob/master/Claude....

Is this like an LLM version of the text you can put in an email body to intentionally trigger spam detection tests?

https://spamassassin.apache.org/gtube/

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Do you think businesses are allowed to just take your money, laugh, and refuse service for no reason? People spend large sums of money for this tool. They can't just delete your balance because they feel like it.

> Do you think businesses are allowed to just take your money, laugh, and refuse service for no reason? > People spend large sums of money for this tool. They can't just delete your balance because they feel like it. Unfortunately, in the US, they can. I'm not a lawyer working in this area, but my understanding is that companies are in general free to stop doing business with any customer at any time (other than reas…

I'm not a lawyer working in this area

You could have just stopped there. The rest of what you wrote just re-demonstrates that you don't know what you're talking about.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Pet peeve of mine is people saying "hey this thing is totally shady/false, I've got proof right here links to hour long podcast >". It happens surprisingly often.

Cal Newport and tech commentator Ed Zitron discussed this disparity between Anthropic's public image and their actual practices. Despite cultivating a reputation as the "ethical" AI company, Zitron argues that Anthropic's actions show they are just as ruthless and ethically questionable as their competitors. Anthropic has been deeply integrated with the US military, having been installed with classified access since…

In my experience Anthropic positions itself as the "safe" AI company more than the "ethical" AI company. They're related but not the same thing.

The only way you could be surprised that Anthropic wants to be in bed with the US military is if you just never listened to anything Dario has said publicly. He's very open about wanting the US government and the US military to use Claude to win against China. That's why Claude was in the Pentagon before all the others in the first place.

>LLMs are fundamentally incapable of controlling autonomous weapons anyway

This is obviously false, though that's not surprising from what I've seen from Zitron. Claude is probably too slow and clunky to go full mech warrior for the time being, but it would be trivial to hook Claude up to an autonomous drone with missile strike capabilities. Those things are mostly autonomous already, they just require a human to tell them where to shoot. Claude can easily do that with a simple API.

The rest is valid. I wouldn't describe Anthropic as an ethical company. On the contrary, if you believe that you losing the AI race is an existential threat to humanity, then it's easy to justify all sorts of unethical behavior for the greater good.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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That's malicious and I think this is scamming from the literal money (you didn't do anything wrong, you executed one command and they scammed you out of the fair usage you paid for). Please raise the ticket or at least GitHub issue for visibility. Sooner or later some sort of complaint to the relevant trade authority should happen - this is a scam operation at this point.

At this point everyone doing these kind of flows (using claws or any other flows that run agents in a loop 24/7) using any kind of subscription-based billing for inference must be aware they're on borrowed time. Enough people have gone over the economics - you're costing OpenAI/Anthropic money, potentially a lot of money, so it's inevitable that sooner or later that particular party will come to an end. Having said t…

I don't get it though. Why not just revise the billing so that if users are hitting the servers above some defined frequency, they get charged more?

I'm tired of this startup-adjacent mindset that promotes endless adversarial scamming. I absolutely think people should be able to run OpenClaw or whatever harnesses they want, but I also think they should pay in some proportion to usage rather than trying to exploit an all-you-can-eat buffet offer to stock their own catering business.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Make sure you check your extra usage. I thought the same but then noticed that single prompt (exactly as posted) cost $0.20 of extra usage.

It can't be legal that they randomly charge extra usage with no user consent.

Are laws being enforced presently? I hadn’t noticed?
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