The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

Post by wolvoleo » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 7:01 PM UTC

rcbdev wrote: post #269

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It's simply not possible. EU law has no provisions for kicking a malignant country out. It was simply not foreseen. They can only decide to leave themselves. Which orban will never do because his oligarchs make billions off EU subsidies. If it were it would have happened already.

They cannot make them leave the EU, no. But Hungary can be: - kicked out of the Schengen Treaty - kicked out of the NATO - fined under EU breach of contract proceedings - withheld financial support as long as they do not pay these fines - forced through customs policy, which is sole EU competence, to stop compensating lost EU support with Chinese money Honestly, I'd be in full support of some above listed actions if…

Post by functional_dev » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 7:04 PM UTC

_rnmp wrote: post #403

Curious how they plan to handle encrypted attachments — scanning has to happen either before encryption (client-side) or after decryption (server-side). If E2EE is preserved end-to-end, there's literally no point in the pipeline where a third party can scan without the client's cooperation. So either E2EE breaks, or the law is unenforceable by design.

Post by pyuser583 » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 9:32 PM UTC

autuni wrote: post #305

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I was reading an essay by Kant called “what is Enlightenment?” It argues that people should be permitted to say whatever they wanted, provided they obey the laws. He bases it on the idea that we should not be subject to be “lifelong tuteledge.” At some point we must speak up and contribute. We can be wrong. Very wrong. We can advise our rulers to do terrible things. The Holocaust hadn’t happened yet, but the Wars of…

this seems like a very delusional take to me > It argues that people should be permitted to say whatever they wanted, provided they obey the laws. that's exactly how it works > Most recently the EU is considering a “ban conversion therapy.” this has nothing to do with the opinions that are expressed in conversion therapy but with the insane practices - which actually try to enforce people to think like they believe i…

Post by rolandog » Fri, Mar 27, 2026, 4:53 AM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #274

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In theory, governments are made up of citizens. In practice, once the citizens are corrupted into corporate shills, they become politicians. They have traded their humanity for business class seats and dining at restaurants that cater to those whose entire personality is talking about their investment portfolio.

Oh, please, stop this tired ‘victim of corrupt bureaucrats‘ framing. People have real choice in EP elections. There are parties that will always stand up for citizens’ rights. If they had enough seats, they could have voted this item off the agenda. Yet, people continue to choose the same conservatives and radical right over and over again, because they are enraged about immigrants and identity politics. Blame the vo…

Post by orleyhuxwell » Fri, Mar 27, 2026, 8:49 AM UTC

pietmichal wrote: post #308

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Could be a wordplay due to the fact "invigilation" can be translated to and from the Polish word with a _very_ heavy and long connotations to the USSR state surveillance, oppression and abuse. Surveillance would be a more "modern" (even if more natural or seemingly correct word), without this sort of the implied baggage.

It's not a wordplay. Poles usually make a mistake because "invigilation" sounds english enough to them and just assume it is an english word.