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Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by abustamam »

amelius wrote: post #173
_doctor_love wrote: post #153

This might sound like snark, but I truly don’t mean it that way. I think what’s interesting about AI, and why there’s so much conversation, is that in order to be a good user of AI, you have to really understand software development. All the people I work with who are getting the most value out of using AI to deliver software are people who are already very high-skilled engineers, and the more years of real experienc…

This is really not true. There are stories of people who had no background in software engineering who now write entire applications using AI. And I have personally seen this happen.

This may be true, but define an entire application. Is it a CRUD app? Is it an app that scales to a thousand, ten thousand, a million users? Is it an app that is bug free and if not bug free, easy to fix said bugs with few to no regressions? Is it an app that is easy to maintain and add new features to without risk of breaking other stuff?

I think it is genuinely impressive to be able to build one app with AI. But I haven't seen evidence that someone could build a maintanable, scalable app with ai. In fact, anecdotally, a friend of mine who runs an agency had a client who vibe coded their app, figured out that they couldn't maintain it, and had him rewrite the app in a way that could be maintained long term.

Again, I'm not an Ai detractor. I use it every day at work. But I've needed to harden my app and rules and such, such that the AI cannot make mistakes when I or another engineer is vibing a new feature. It's a work in progress.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by anonzzzies »

I can see why people would he, but it is amazing tech when used right; as others here said; if you are an experienced developer, you can get a lot of mileage out of it. If you are not a dev or a bad dev, you might struggle because of over estimating what it can do for you.

The most frustrating about AI I find is that it is (trying to) replacing things that I like; writing, art, programming while leaving me with the things I absolutely hate like testing, chores etc. I do like reading code, so thats not a big issue; I spent most of the day doing that before AI, however, being a fulltime QA was always my nightmare but here we are; AI sucks at it for a more than trivial frontend and backend its not that good at either (I should write the tests or rather tell the AI in detail what to test for otherwise it will just positively test what it indeed wrote; not what the spec says it had to write in many cases).

But no, I like talking about AI, just not so much about slop, trivial usage (show hn; here is a SaaS to turn you into a rabbit!) or hyperbole (our jubs!) (Although I do believe it is the end of code; like said; I read and review code all day but have not written much for the past 6 months while working on complex non trivial SaaS projects; I am with antirez; it is automatic coding, not vibecoding for me).

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by KPGv2 »

Yes. My Android feed's Github repos are always AI these days. HN is 50+% AI posts. And I just built a NAS that is about 50% more expensive than it would have been without AI.

I'm so exhausted by this and ready for the economic crash.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by RyanOD »

mindcrime wrote: post #358
artur_makly wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

your HN handle is one of my top 10 fav tracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RSniyYNSc {heart}

And here I was expecting this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Rl8TpGIP4

And here I was expecting this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0iuMByFjCQ&list=PLEouLkiLHd...

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by bdangubic »

KPGv2 wrote: post #413

Yes. My Android feed's Github repos are always AI these days. HN is 50+% AI posts. And I just built a NAS that is about 50% more expensive than it would have been without AI. I'm so exhausted by this and ready for the economic crash.

economic crash will make it even worse unfortunately

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by stemlord »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #306
pesus wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm convinced that the majority of people hyping up AI don't actually interact with many people in real life, let alone people that aren't software engineers.

To those of us on the cutting edge, the opinion of the average person when it comes to these things is totally irrelevant. I see the benefit and possibilities with my own eyes, I don't need the confirmation or denial of the average person. All that said, I've already set up a few of my non tech close friends with Cowork and they are huge fans of it now. It's somewhat shocking how much menial repetitive work the avera…

The average person dislikes AI not because it isn't useful. Anyway, we're more or less all on the cutting edge together

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by bichiliad »

This kind of feels like the same thing in which people talk more about the cameras they have instead of the photos they make, or the modular synth they built instead of the album they're working on with it. It's nice when it's confined to your hobby, but it's so weird when the whole world is talking about it. Imagine everyone going to a concert just to see the gear on the stage.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by MintPaw »

bichiliad wrote: post #418

This kind of feels like the same thing in which people talk more about the cameras they have instead of the photos they make, or the modular synth they built instead of the album they're working on with it. It's nice when it's confined to your hobby, but it's so weird when the whole world is talking about it. Imagine everyone going to a concert just to see the gear on the stage.

It might be that this is common with new tech, I'm too young to have grown up in the early concert scene. But with video games the curve was similar. People would show up just to see the tech and how much stuff people could put on the screen, It's only pretty recently that part has started getting boring.

I'd imagine similarly there were points in time where people who go to concerts just to see the electric guitars and lighting setups.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by defrost »

bichiliad wrote: post #418

This kind of feels like the same thing in which people talk more about the cameras they have instead of the photos they make, or the modular synth they built instead of the album they're working on with it. It's nice when it's confined to your hobby, but it's so weird when the whole world is talking about it. Imagine everyone going to a concert just to see the gear on the stage.

There'd be a suprising number of people that'd go to a Greatest Hits and Homages to the Fairlight CMI concert.

Argueably Jean-Michel Jarre concets were 100% gear-porn shows.

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