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Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by albedoa »

carlosjobim wrote: post #355
albedoa wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> trust me, they are going to be livid about this. Just as soon as...what? How are two of the top three people named on the "Meet the team" page simultaneously oblivious to the half gig of ad downloads and on the verge of caring? Forgive us for not trusting you on this.

You're not any kind of "us". You are just a single person, like me and everybody else here. Of course they can be - and probably are - unknowing of some erroneous code in one of their thousands of articles.

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Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by throw10920 »

psychoslave wrote: post #409
throw10920 wrote: post #401

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> As they say "it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his income depends on his not understanding it", which also have many other more flavors.[1] This is a useless, irrelevant, and fallacious thought-terminating cliche that you're using as an attempt to disguise the fact that you have presented no alternative - because you know I'll tear it to shreds if you do. (an LLM comment doesn't count, becau…

>This is a useless, irrelevant, and fallacious thought-terminating cliche that you're using as an attempt to disguise the fact that you have presented no alternative - because you know I'll tear it to shreds if you do. Once again, this kind of sentence show a total absence of will to go further than I/you mentality. A wider perspective is hard to achieve, if even possible, without putting the pretence of this/that pe…

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_National_Happiness

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Progress_Index

Yeah, you have nothing, and the absolute drivel in the rest of your comment reflects that. These values are categorically not accepted as a proxy for value in any educated country.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by olgkov »

mikkupikku wrote: post #378
mrguyorama wrote: post #376

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Which, as a reminder, was the status quo just a decade or so ago. I don't remember "I can't throw money away on this football play" being a massive society wide problem that needed fixing in 2010, pretty sure everyone could bet with their friends already.

What's more, betting with friends is vastly less harmful than betting at casinos (digital or otherwise.) When you bet with friends, your loss is their gain and their loss is your gain, the money more or less sticks around, the community as a whole isn't impoverished by it. But when people are gambling away their days wages playing rigged slot machines on their phone, that money might as well have been set on fire. It…

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Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

throw10920 wrote: post #388
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #349

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>The actual reason why companies (and even personal and open-source software projects) make these "wasteful" design decisions is because normal users have clearly indicated their priorities. You really think it's the users asking for bloated webpages? Reddit has been pushing their reddit redesign forever now. No users ever asked for it. There is a large community of users that insist on using the old.reddit interface…

> You really think it's the users asking for bloated webpages? > It's not users clamoring for more bloated websites, it's marketing folks. You clearly didn't read my comment before responding, because I very clearly made the point that it's not about users wanting worse performance, but a matter of relative priority. Suggest reading before responding. > Reddit has been pushing their reddit redesign forever now. No us…

I can't read your original comment anymore because it's flagged, but rest assured, I read it, and disagreed with it.

Users enduring yet another web 2.0 redesign does not go so far as to prove acceptance. I think every poll they've had on the redesign has been negative.

Regardless, I don't feel like continuing this discussion given your abrasive tone. Tell yourself you 'won' if it satisfies any urge to respond further.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by colesantiago »

Marsymars wrote: post #356
colesantiago wrote: post #337

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Because AI bots will scrape the full text RSS.

How is a web page with the full text more resistant to that than an RSS feed with the full text?

Some RSS feeds have the full text and are transitioning users to the full content on the web page.

RSS scraping is just 100x easier and some publications have taken notice.

I've seen some publications are transitioning to extreme hard paywalls and are even harder to scrape.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by throw10920 »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #414
throw10920 wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You really think it's the users asking for bloated webpages? > It's not users clamoring for more bloated websites, it's marketing folks. You clearly didn't read my comment before responding, because I very clearly made the point that it's not about users wanting worse performance, but a matter of relative priority. Suggest reading before responding. > Reddit has been pushing their reddit redesign forever now. No us…

I can't read your original comment anymore because it's flagged, but rest assured, I read it, and disagreed with it. Users enduring yet another web 2.0 redesign does not go so far as to prove acceptance. I think every poll they've had on the redesign has been negative. Regardless, I don't feel like continuing this discussion given your abrasive tone. Tell yourself you 'won' if it satisfies any urge to respond further…

> rest assured, I read it

You clearly did not, because nobody who actually read my comment and has functional reading comprehension and basic logic skills would have written these responses:

> You really think it's the users asking for bloated webpages?

> It's not users clamoring for more bloated websites, it's marketing folks.

And:

> and disagreed with it.

Disagreement is only relevant for matters of opinion. For matters of fact, like this one, there is no opinion - only facts and arguments. Can you not tell the difference between opinion and fact?

> Users enduring yet another web 2.0 redesign does not go so far as to prove acceptance.

OK, now you're just trolling, because I already addressed this point in both of the comments you've responded to.

> Tell yourself you 'won' if it satisfies any urge to respond further.

You've proven that you're either unable to read or unable to use basic logic, so it's not even that I've won - you've eliminated yourself. You haven't been able to make a single valid point - you've just misread, misunderstood, and mischaracterized my arguments, and then failed to make any coherent response whatsoever.

Re: PC Gamer recommends RSS readers in a 37mb article that just keeps downloading

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Post by gavdraper »

The irony really does make the case better than the article itself. I've been using Articyl for a while, RSS feeds, saved articles, and podcasts all in one place. The saved article reader strips everything back to just the content, so no 37MB surprises. It can also send your reading list to a Kindle as PDF/EPUB over email if you want to get away from screens entirely.
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