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Agents that run while I sleep

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Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Not have to "build" anything. You edit code and it is already deployed on your dev instance. Deploying to production is just scp -rv * production:/var/www/ Beautifully simple. No npm build crap.

You trade having to compile for actually having code that can scale

You don't know anything about the PHP ecosystem and it shows.

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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Nothing; but PHP, in experienced hands, will be waaay more productive for small-to-medium things. One issue is that experienced hands are increasingly hard to come by. Truly big, complicated things, built by large teams or numbers of teams, teams with a lot of average brains or AIs trained on average brains, will be better off in something like Typescript/React. And everyone wants to work on the big complicated stuff…

I worked at a startup, they built their API in PHP because it was easy and fast. Now they're successful, app doesn't scale, high latency etc. What does their php code do? 95% of it is calling a DB. You're telling me today with LLM power multiplier it's THAT much faster to write in PHP compared to something that can actually have a future?

What does this even mean? If you've got scaling problems, it's not because you've used PHP.

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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> I worked at a startup, they built their API in PHP because it was easy and fast. Now they're successful, app doesn't scale, high latency etc. What does their php code do? 95% of it is calling a DB. So PHP worked perfectly, but the DB is slow? Your DB isn't going any faster by switching to something else, if that's what you think. PHP is the future, where React has been heading for years.

> Your DB isn't going any faster by switching to something else, if that's what you think. Only true if none of the DB accesses are about stuff that could live as state across requests in a server that wasn't php. Sure, for some of that the DB's caching will be just as good, but for others, not at all.

That is possible, but it sounds unlikely to me.

In most cases you could add a shared cache to fix the problem - e.g. put your shared state in Redis, or in a file that is synced across servers (if its kept as state in a long running process it cannot need to be updated frequently).

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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I am not laughing about PHP. To this very day many of my best projects are built on PHP. And while last 7 years I have spent in full stack JavaScript/TypeScript environment it has never produced the same things I was actually able to do with PHP. I actually feel that things I built 15 years ago in PHP were better than anything I am trying to achieve with modern things that gets outdated every 6 months.

what in God's Name could you do in PHP that you can't do in a modern framework?

Could you give examples of the modern frameworks that you have in mind?

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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What is strange about paying for tools that improve productivity? Unless you consider your own time worthless you should always be open to spending more to gain more.

No stock backed company will be paying developers more regardless of much more productive these tools make us. You'll be lucky if they pay for the proper Claude Max plan themselves considering most wouldn't even spring for IntelliJ.

I wasn't thinking about this from the perspective of an IC in a company, more from the perspective of self employment or side projects. But its not any different for a larger business: An IC should not pay for their own tools, but an engineering manager who won't is a fool.

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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I simply can't stand reading this prose, let alone bring myself to care about some vibe-code BS the author couldn't be bothered to write about themselves.

Telling Claude to turn your notes into a blog post with simple, terse language does not hide your own lack of taste.

Re: Agents that run while I sleep

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I would encourage my competitors to use AI agents on their codebase as much as possible. Make sure every new feature has it, lots of velocity! Run those suckers day and night. Don't review it, just make sure the feature is there! Then when the music stops, the AI companies hit the economic realities, go insolvent, and they are left with no one who understands a sprawling tangled web of code that is 80% AI generated,…

Qwen3 Coder Next and Qwen3.5-35B-A3B already very good and can be run on today's higher end home computers with good speed. Tomorrow's machines will not be slower but models are keep getting more efficient. A good sw engineer still would be valuable in Tomorrow's world but not as a software assembler.

> Tomorrow's machines will not be slower

The way it's going, the AI hyperscalers are buying such a big portion of the world's hardware, that it may very well happen that tomorrow's machines do get slower per dollar of purchase value.

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