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Re: iPhone 17e

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What do you mean? With every launch they change the orientation of the camera array so you can tell who has the new model, and thus, is a better person.

You need to be well versed in the attribution for camera disposition. I am too old for that so getting understanding who is the better person is challenging :)

Good news! they've also changed the number of cameras, and added a notch for you.

Re: iPhone 17e

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I had an Air with the same camera system as the 17e, I believe. Coming from a 15 Pro Max, it was perfectly serviceable if you were happy with the limited zoom options and lack of wide angle shots. I never realized how much I used those two features, so, regrettably had to go back to the chunky 17 Pro Max. Maybe one day…

Wide angle is rarely used by me except it’s pretty good macro capabilities. It is better than your eyes.

I don't think I ever used the ultra wide camera in my phone. I find the default wide angle already too wide for most use cases. For some reason every phone includes one but not a ~50mm equivalent. Weird.

Re: iPhone 17e

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give me a monochrome e paper android device, metal case, small like the 12 mini, week long battery life. k thanks bye

Some years ago a chinese company released a phone with 2 screens, one typical mobile screen and other side a e-paper screen. But I don't remember what happened, but unfortunately this idea didn't succeed.

There are also Hisense phones, I had one for a while but having to live with stock firmware severely limited its longevity.

Re: iPhone 17e

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People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

I have a pet theory about increasing phone sizes > Screen size is area (x^2) and battery size is volume (x^3). As battery life is a critical feature, a bigger screen supports (a nonlinear) better battery life. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44588733

This does not square with especially Apple's unending obsession to make phones as thin as possible. Which is doubly stupid when it makes them so fragile that the first thing you do after taking it out of the box is to wrap it in a thick rubber shell.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

For a whole minute because of the display notch and since all iPhones moved to the island I got my hopes up that this 17e was 13 mini sized.

So much so that I went on to check the specs but no it's 6.1". Damn, so close, what a missed opportunity.

Re: iPhone 17e

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I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…

Many people used low iPhone mini sales to point at the idea that small phones aren't popular anymore. They might be right, but the "Mini" was more like a return to the size of the 6 & 8; not the same size as the 5 or prior SE. So for me it was still too large. https://imgur.com/a/iphone-mini-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-6-case... The "usable screen" is where my thumb can reach, not whatever idea people have in their heads a…

> Anyway; hit recognition of the keyboard is so far behind where it was in the iPhone 4/5 generation that I doubt modern iOS would even be functional; even if you excused the padding issues that would inevitably be an issue

Right?? It is worse than I remember right? I'm not crazy.

Re: iPhone 17e

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I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…

Why do almost all phones have to be in that narrow band of 6.5 to 6.9 inches? I wish there were more size choices on both ends of the spectrum. While most people prefer more choice below 6", I would like some choice above 7", since I keep my phone in my belly pouch, and never use it one-handed. My current Huawei Mate20X is actually ok at 7.2" (but worse than the Mediapad X1 I had before which at 7" was actually wider…

Quick reality check that

- 7" used to be tablet category, e.g the Nexus 7

- anything above 6" would be considered phablet

Phones are really just like cars now, size inflation included.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Many people used low iPhone mini sales to point at the idea that small phones aren't popular anymore. They might be right, but the "Mini" was more like a return to the size of the 6 & 8; not the same size as the 5 or prior SE. So for me it was still too large. https://imgur.com/a/iphone-mini-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-6-case... The "usable screen" is where my thumb can reach, not whatever idea people have in their heads a…

> Anyway; hit recognition of the keyboard is so far behind where it was in the iPhone 4/5 generation that I doubt modern iOS would even be functional; even if you excused the padding issues that would inevitably be an issue Right?? It is worse than I remember right? I'm not crazy.

Using the iOS 26 keyboard on an iPhone SE 2/3 is a truly miserable experience now. Upgrading from 18 was a terrible mistake
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