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/e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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post #403

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To put my answer in context, I was replying to this: > There's absolutely no reason to use /e/ when GrapheneOS exists. There absolutely is. If I was choosing again today I would be tempted to switch back, for the reasons I listed. And I would probably miss many things you cited, like Storage and Contact Scopes. As for MicroG, afaik I can't use it on GOS without considerable effort (recompiling OS) and probably also o…

> are by incompetent/lazy/pressured devs who just throw in some library and don't even care that it leaks data to Google Even if I agreed with this statement, I don't understand why it is better to put limited/precious resources something the app developers can easily circumvent, praying they never stop being incompetent/lazy/pressured and tell device owners it is an important privacy feature? Instead of waiting for…

It seems there are different "privacies". My privacy concern is about BigTech syphoning data from the users, not targeted CIA attacks.

As for lazy/... app developers, as a user I do what I can to protect myself from their decisions. NetGuard helps there.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Fair enough, although barring VPN use is quite a bit different from forcing an app that requires Play Services or iPhone. A VPN isn't as legitimate a need to pay a utility bill in the same way paying without an Android or iOS phone can be.

I don’t see why not. It entirely depends on why someone needs a VPN. And I also shouldn’t need to justify it regardless.

> I don’t see why not. It entirely depends on why someone needs a VPN.

Nah, not really. Using a VPN is a luxury, a preference. You're arguing that using a VPN should be a right in a discussion about people not being forced to use specific Apple or Google services, which is an entirely different thing.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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post #379

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>I don't get what's so user-hostile about Android. How about the fact that you can't install applications without having a google account. Right from the get go, it isn't a serious OS.

I don't have a Google account. No idea what you're on about, tbh.

I used to not use one either, and used Aurora Store for certain apps. But at some point, my bank's app stopped working if I installed it from Aurora Store, and would only work from the play store. Since then I've seen a lot more apps that work this way.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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post #414

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I don't have a Google account. No idea what you're on about, tbh.

I used to not use one either, and used Aurora Store for certain apps. But at some point, my bank's app stopped working if I installed it from Aurora Store, and would only work from the play store. Since then I've seen a lot more apps that work this way.

Well, banks will do bank things. Still not a general Android issue, righ? Though I wish the attestation would just check if the bootloader is locked and if there's no root. Then there wouldn't be an issue with ChatGTP, banking apps, some stupid airline apps that don't work on GrapheneOS.
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