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I'm not worried about AI job loss

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Post by booleandilemma »

sarchertech wrote: post #344
iberator wrote: post #41

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I lost my job as a software developer some time ago. Flipping burgers is WAY more demanding than I ever imagined. That's the danger of AI: It takes jobs faster than creating new ones PLUS for some fields (like software development) downshifting to just about anything else is brutal and sometimes simply not doable. Forget becoming manager at McDonald's or be even good at flipping burgers at the age of 40: you are comp…

> Forget becoming manager at McDonald's or be even good at flipping burgers at the age of 40: you are competing with 20yr olds doing sports with amazing coordination etc I have no idea what in the world you are talking about. Most 20 year olds working at McDonald’s are stoned and move at half a mile an hour whether it’s a lunch rush or it’s 2am. I worked retail for years before I finally switched full time to program…

Do you really wanna be competing with those people though? I'll be honest, I don't even want to be in the same room as them.

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Post by y0eswddl »

echelon wrote: post #395
kaibee wrote: post #393

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> Isn't that what a well run company does How many of those do you see around?

I bet we're about to see a lot of 10-person $100M+ ARR companies emerge. That's a scale where teams can be tight and excel.

when.

people have been saying that since 2022.

when and how. hmm??

show your work.

or is this just more slype being spewed...

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Post by FranklinJabar »

bluecheese452 wrote: post #109
throwaway0123_5 wrote: post #78

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> Job loss is likely to have statistics more comparable to the Black Plague. Maybe this is overly optimistic, but if AI starts to have negative impacts on average people comparable to the plague, it seems like there's a lot more that people can do. In medieval Europe, nobody knew what was causing the plague and nobody knew how to stop it. On the other hand, if AI quickly replaces half of all jobs, it will be very obv…

It is very obvious what and who caused the low living standards in North Korea and yet here we are decades later with no end in site.

Is it obvious? I suspect there are at least two sets of popular answers depending on what propaganda you consume.

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Post by matwood »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #402
atlintots wrote: post #190

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You can't afford an apartment because the ownership class is working very hard to keep housing prices high while paying you as little as possible for the two decades you have been working. Not because some disabled person elsewhere is struggling to get by on government loans and welfare.

The people keeping housing prices high are the leftist that push regulations that make it impossible to build while importing immigrants who disproportionately use welfare and get starter loans which they then use to push up housing prices without contributing anything to the economy. If this is the "ownership class" I guess stop voting for leftist. But nobody does, they just keep doing it, and housing becomes even m…

This sounds like a Fox News fever dream.

Even if we assume there are tons of jobless immigrants being ‘imported’ they would be renters, not buyers.

Generally, house pricing is primarily a supply problem. Removing immigrants will make this worse given that they are 30%+ of the construction workforce.

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Post by disfictional »

The key to the essay is that "ordinary people will be fine." Software Engineers will be highly impacted, though not in the way most commenters seem to think. Management isn't going to arbitrarily decide that, "AI can do 65% of the job, so we'll lay off 65% of the engineers." They won't hire. Attrition? New projects? "Just use AI tools to be more productive. Find the bottlenecks and automate them. Focus on your core value." AI isn't going to be a fast slash to the workforce; it will be a constantly accelerating drain. Yes, ordinary people will be fine, but those of us who aspired to be artisans of building these systems will be stretched further and further until all we do is maintain AI code full-time for a discounted price.

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Post by PeterHolzwarth »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #266
simianwords wrote: post #247

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You are painting this like it’s a bad thing. The workers decided that they would rather have higher working time to buy more things! A lot of people would not choose to work for half the time as they do now because they do actually like to buy things.

I'd happily work for 20 hours @200k a year. It'd give me time to work on my own projects. Issue is that virtually no company offers that deal unless you already have noteriety or money at the level of retiring anyway.

Most companies won't hire people with a high degree of notoriety. They may hire those people if they have some degree of fame.

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Post by uxhacker »

sarchertech wrote: post #301
ArchieScrivener wrote: post #287

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Yeah bro, its been three years. We are just beginning. We will replace the vast majority of professional service workers in 10 years including lawyers as Ai shifts to local and moves away from the cloud.

If we wipe out the vast majority of white collar jobs in just 10 years, we’re talking complete economic collapse. No society can possibly absorb that kind of disruption over such a short time. Also even assuming AI could completely replace lawyers. Lawyers control the legislature. They may not be able to stop your local model from telling you how to do something, but they can stop you from actually doing it without a…

But then will we not need more judges and courts?

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Post by flanked-evergl »

matwood wrote: post #415
flanked-evergl wrote: post #402

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The people keeping housing prices high are the leftist that push regulations that make it impossible to build while importing immigrants who disproportionately use welfare and get starter loans which they then use to push up housing prices without contributing anything to the economy. If this is the "ownership class" I guess stop voting for leftist. But nobody does, they just keep doing it, and housing becomes even m…

This sounds like a Fox News fever dream. Even if we assume there are tons of jobless immigrants being ‘imported’ they would be renters, not buyers. Generally, house pricing is primarily a supply problem. Removing immigrants will make this worse given that they are 30%+ of the construction workforce.

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Post by [deleted] »

OccamsMirror wrote: post #281
jackfranklyn wrote: post #248

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You’re describing task reallocation, but the bigger second-order effect is where the firm can now source the remaining human judgment. AI reduces the penalty for weak domain context. Once the work is packaged like that, the “thinking part” becomes far easier to offshore because: - Training time drops as you’re not teaching the whole craft, you’re teaching exception-handling around an AI-driven pipeline. - Quality bec…

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