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Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by afastow »

enraged_camel wrote: post #224
bakugo wrote: post #179

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There is no code, there are no tools, there is no configuration, and there are no projects. This is an AI generated post likely created by going to chatgpt.com and typing in "write a blogpost hyping up [thing] as the next technological revolution", like most tech blog content seems to be now. None of those things ever existed, the AI made them up to fulfill the request.

There is zero evidence this is the case. You are making up baseless accusation, probably due to partisan motivations. edit: love the downvotes. I guess HN really is Reddit now. You can make any accusation without evidence and people are supposed to just believe it. If you call it out you get downvoted.

What evidence are you expecting exactly? It's vacuous AI slop that spends 1000 words just making vague assertions about how incredible OpenClaw is without a single actual example. There's nothing here, it's not real. You are going to struggle going forward if you can't detect AI slop this obvious.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by mannanj »

aeldidi wrote: post #298

There's an odd trend with these sorts of posts where the author claims to have had some transformative change in their workflow brought upon by LLM coding tools, but also seemingly has nothing to show for it. To me, using the most recent ChatGPT Codex (5.3 on "Extra High" reasoning), it's incredibly obvious that while these tools are surprisingly good at doing repetitive or locally-scoped tasks, they immediately fall…

I think unpopularly there's some fake comments in the discourse led by financial incentives, and also a mix of some fear-based "wanting to feel like things are OK" or dissonance-avoiding belief around this thats leading to the opinions we hear.

It also kinda feels gaslightish and as I've said in some controversial replies in other posts, its sort of eerily mass "psychosis" vibes just like during COVID.

Re: OpenClaw is changing my life

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Post by throwaway0123_5 »

Fogest wrote: post #355
RealityVoid wrote: post #302

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You're not going crazy. That is what I see as well. But, I do think there is value in: - driving the LLM instead of doing it yourself. - sometimes I just can't get the activation energy and the LLM is always ready to go so it gives me a kickstart - doing things you normally don't know. I learned a lot of command like tools and trucks by seeing what Claude does. Doing short scripts for stuff is super useful. Of course…

> - maintaining change consistency. This I think it's just better than humans. If you have stuff you need to change at 2 or 3 places, you will probably forget. LLM's are better at keeping consistency at details (but not at big picture stuff, interestingly.) I use Claude Code a decent amount, and I actually find that sometimes this can be the opposite for me. Sometimes it is actually missing other areas that the chang…

> LLM's are better at keeping consistency at details (but not at big picture stuff, interestingly.)

I think it makes sense? Unlike small details which are certain to be explicitly part of the training data, "big picture stuff" feels like it would mostly be captured only indirectly.

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Post by ianburrell »

lordnacho wrote: post #207
i-blis wrote: post #165

I have always failed to understand the obsessive dream of many engineers to become managers. It seems not to have to do merely with an increase in revenue. Is it really to escape from "getting bogged down in the specifics" and being able to "focus on the higher-level, abstract work", to quote OP's words? I thought naively that engineering always has been about dealing with the specifics and the joy of problem solving…

I liken it to being an author. You want to write a book about people's deepest motivations. Formative experiences, relationships, desires. Society, expectations, disappointment. Characters need to meet and talk at certain times. The plot needs to make sense. You bring it to your editor. He finds you forgot to capitalise a proper noun. You also missed an Oxford comma. You used "their" instead of "they're". He sends yo…

Except that the editor doesn't focus on little things but the structure. It is the job of copy editor to correct all the grammar and bad writing. Copy editor can't be done by AI since it includes fixing logical errors and character names. My understanding is that everybody, including the author, fixes typos when they find them. There is also proofreader at the end to catch typos.

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Post by unixhero »

christophilus wrote: post #347
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #317

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For me the biggest benefit from using LLMs is that I feel way more motivated to try new tools because I don't have to worry about the initial setup. I'd previously encountered tools that seemed interesting, but as soon as I tried getting it to run I found myself going down an infinite debugging hole. With an LLM I can usually explain my system's constraints and the best models will give me a working setup from which…

Same. This weekend, I built a Flutter app and a Wails app just to compare the two. Would have never done either on my own due to the up front boilerplate— and not knowing (nor really wishing to know) Dart.

Cool! With openclaw or with Claude?

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Post by brookst »

wvlia5 wrote: post #401
brookst wrote: post #380

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I can’t speak for anyone else, but Claude Code has been transformative for me. I can’t say it’s led to shipping “high quality projects”, but it has let me accomplish things I just wouldn’t have had time for previously. I’ve been wanting to develop a plastic -> silicone -> plaster -> clay mold making process for years, but it’s complex and mold making is both art and science. It would have been hundreds of hours befor…

Sounds like you only tried it on small projects.

At work I use it on giant projects, but it’s less impressive there’s

My mold project is around 10k lines of code, still small.

But I don’t actually care about whether LLMs are good or bad or whatever. All I care is that I am am completing things that I wasn’t able to even start before. Doesn’t really matter to me if that doesn’t count for some reason.

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Post by brookst »

sarchertech wrote: post #403
brookst wrote: post #380

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I can’t speak for anyone else, but Claude Code has been transformative for me. I can’t say it’s led to shipping “high quality projects”, but it has let me accomplish things I just wouldn’t have had time for previously. I’ve been wanting to develop a plastic -> silicone -> plaster -> clay mold making process for years, but it’s complex and mold making is both art and science. It would have been hundreds of hours befor…

> I’ve been wanting to develop a plastic -> silicone -> plaster -> clay mold making process for years, but it’s complex and mold making is both art and science. It would have been hundreds of hours before, with maybe 12 hours of Claude code I’m almost there (some nagging issues… maybe another hour). That’s so nebulous and likely just plain wrong. I have some experience with silicone molds and casting silicone and oth…

You may just be more knowledgeable than me. For me, even getting to algorithmic creation of 4-6 part molds, plus alternating negatives / positives in the different mediums, was insurmountable.

I’m willing to believe that I’m just especially clueless and this is not a meaningful project to an expert. But hey, I’m printing plastic negatives to make silicone positives to make plaster negatives to slip cast, which is what I actually do care about.

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Post by marcus_holmes »

colechristensen wrote: post #400
tunesmith wrote: post #397

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I guess this is another example - I literally have not experienced what you described in... several weeks, at least.

I often ask for big things. For example I'm working on some virtualization things where I want a machine to be provisioned with a few options of linux distros and BSDs. In one prompt I asked for this list to be provisioned so a certain test of ssh would complete, it worked on it for several hours and now we're doing the code review loop. At first it gave up on the BSDs and I had to poke it to actually finish with an…

The thing I've learned is that it doesn't do well at the big things (yet).

I have to break large tasks into smaller tasks, and limit the context and scope.

This is the thing that both Superpowers and Ralph [0] do well when they're orchestrating; the plans are broken down enough so that the actual coding agent instance doesn't get overwhelmed and lost.

It'll be interesting to see what Claude Code's new 1m token limit does to this. I'm not sure if the "stupid zone" is due to approaching token limits, or to inherent growth in complexity in the context.

[0] these are the two that I've experimented with, there are others.

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Post by brookst »

holySBoring wrote: post #404
brookst wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t speak for anyone else, but Claude Code has been transformative for me. I can’t say it’s led to shipping “high quality projects”, but it has let me accomplish things I just wouldn’t have had time for previously. I’ve been wanting to develop a plastic -> silicone -> plaster -> clay mold making process for years, but it’s complex and mold making is both art and science. It would have been hundreds of hours befor…

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May I suggest you re-read the guidelines regarding charitable interpretations? This is oddly aggressive and insulting, and probably beneath you.

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Post by razster »

aeldidi wrote: post #298

There's an odd trend with these sorts of posts where the author claims to have had some transformative change in their workflow brought upon by LLM coding tools, but also seemingly has nothing to show for it. To me, using the most recent ChatGPT Codex (5.3 on "Extra High" reasoning), it's incredibly obvious that while these tools are surprisingly good at doing repetitive or locally-scoped tasks, they immediately fall…

From what I get out of this is that these models are trained on basic coding and not enterprise level where you have thousands and thousands of project files all intertwined and linked with dependencies. It didn’t have access to all of that.
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