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Post by tremon »

verdverm wrote: post #376
fundad wrote: post #352

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Almost half of the voting public intentionaly acted to sabotage the country. Let's stop treating them with kid gloves, they are anti-American and should never be forgiven.

This is not how to reverse the damage that has already been done, if you are unwilling to forgive, you are as bad as MAGA, perhaps worse. Forgiveness is a core human virtue we do not want to lose. No, half of the voters did not intentionally vote for this. Half of the voting public doesn't pay any attention and votes based on their finances or party allegiance. You and I saw all the bad things to know what would happ…

There is no forgiveness without contrition. However you want to spin it, they did vote for this and as long as they don't acknowledge culpability for their actions there is no point in forgiving them -- they'll just continue blamelessly voting to sabotage the country.

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Post by tremon »

Henchman21 wrote: post #361
citrin_ru wrote: post #269

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The child may be mad but he is happy to take bribes from the oil industry so they are as guilty as he is. And the same goes for most right wing politicians in Europe.

Humanity needs to wake up to the fact that our supposed "leaders" only lead us toward servitude. Our economic and political systems are designed to keep the vast majority of people in either literal or figurative chains so 25 people can get rich. The entire system needs to be smashed to bits for the good of the many. Because after all, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few, or the one. But not in current…

Imagine becoming an adult and still thinking that all of humanity is contained within the border wall of the USA.

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Post by tremon »

willis936 wrote: post #70
Retric wrote: post #45

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Yes far worse, the superconducting supercollider produced science which has debatable value. There’s an argument we lost nothing by canceling the project. Wind farms produce electricity which pays for the investment when you finish but pays nothing when a stop early. This makes stopping early extremely economically harmful.

The effective electricity rate in MA is already $0.37/kWh. How much further could it go?

I see no reason why it couldn't rise to the equivalent of $37/mWs under the looming hyperinflation.

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Post by jfengel »

eucyclos wrote: post #399
jfengel wrote: post #139

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That's how parties work, of necessity. They are all uneasy alliances of people who can barely tolerate each other. People find the one that supports their most important issues and hopefully few things they really detest. Then they have to pay at least lip service to all of it. By getting everyone else's support, at least one or two of your favorite issues get worked on. In doing so you need to find a way to live wit…

Having seen student politics with and without parties - my student union had them, my engineering society banned them - I'm convinced that it's not bad voters that ruin democracies but political parties. Parties need to simplify their messages to get buy in, and promote a 'team first' over 'issues first' mentality in their members. They're anathema to principles of honest debate and compromise.

The large scale something is, the more a political party matters. At a school level you can be closely informed about all of the issues and know all of the players. You can barely do that at the level of city politics. State and federal politics simply doesn't allow it.

Large scale democracies only work when people are willing to live together. If you play democracy as a winner-take-all game, it's going to fail sooner or later.

I'm not convinced that anything works at the national scale, at least not over the long term. I suspect that the US, as one of the oldest-and-largest democracies, is demonstrating a path that others will eventually follow.

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Post by opo »

ecshafer wrote: post #335
ghtbircshotbe wrote: post #329

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This problem has already been solved. The legislature creates the laws, the executive executes the laws, and the judiciary interprets the laws. But now we're in a situation where the executive does whatever it wants including illegally shutting down congressionally created programs, the legislature lets it happen despite not having the votes to legally change the law, and the judiciary is also letting it happen when…

Caesar was assassinated because the Senate was jealous Caesar's wealth, power, prestige and love by the people. Also because he wanted to redistribute land, threatening their own power.

I don't think that is the consensus view of why Caesar was assassinated:

>...According to Suetonius, Caesar's assassination ultimately occurred primarily due to concerns that he wished to crown himself the king of Rome.[13] These concerns were exacerbated by the "three last straws" of 45 and 44 BC. In just a few months, Caesar had disrespected the Senate, removed People's Tribunes, and toyed with monarchy. By February, the conspiracy that caused his assassination was being born.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Julius_Caesar

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Post by opo »

randomfrogs wrote: post #382
ecshafer wrote: post #357

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Federalist society is supporting textualist interpretation of the law. If you want the law to be different, then change the constitution. Having overly expansive interpetations of the constitution to make the law what you want is being an activist. Textualism is just going by what the law says.

They decided that the 14th amendment prohibition on insurrectionists being able to hold Federal office did not apply to Trump because he is not an officer of the United States (despite the fact he holds the "Office of the Presidency"). If that isn't deliberately misreading the actual words of the statute to get the result you want, what is?

This was a unanimous decision by the Supreme Court and I think a large part of it was that an individual state could use this for political gain. As Kagan said during oral arguments: "I think the question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be president of the United States..."

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Post by fundad »

tremon wrote: post #411
verdverm wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not how to reverse the damage that has already been done, if you are unwilling to forgive, you are as bad as MAGA, perhaps worse. Forgiveness is a core human virtue we do not want to lose. No, half of the voters did not intentionally vote for this. Half of the voting public doesn't pay any attention and votes based on their finances or party allegiance. You and I saw all the bad things to know what would happ…

There is no forgiveness without contrition. However you want to spin it, they did vote for this and as long as they don't acknowledge culpability for their actions there is no point in forgiving them -- they'll just continue blamelessly voting to sabotage the country.

I agree. People have agency even MAGA. Nothing was hidden from them and they are smug about what they are getting with Republicans in power.

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Post by mbivert »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #397
mbivert wrote: post #389

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> The only difference between a cult and a religion is popular acceptance. That's typically caricature. I encourage you to study things more thoroughly before allowing yourself to form an opinion. One simply can't know a subject before having thoroughly studied it. > It's just you PREFER the christianity bullshit. I'm not Christian. Regardless, Christian teachings are freely available. Anyone can practice on their ow…

> I'm not Christian. Apologies, I assumed such from the way you described architecture. Few western religions have influence on architecture as much as Christianity. >Scientology's "highest teachings" are kept private. Its primary purpose seems to be raising money by abusing people's naivety. Compare that to the Christ's « love thy neighbor as thyself. » Very distinct essences. That's your assumption. I can easily as…

Rudeness, plays against yourself.

I directly know people who lived in China, have been jailed and beaten there, and have literal scars to prove it. Hard to brush this away easily from my mind.

Not all people who express negative views on China are alike.

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Post by threethirtytwo »

mbivert wrote: post #418
threethirtytwo wrote: post #397

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> I'm not Christian. Apologies, I assumed such from the way you described architecture. Few western religions have influence on architecture as much as Christianity. >Scientology's "highest teachings" are kept private. Its primary purpose seems to be raising money by abusing people's naivety. Compare that to the Christ's « love thy neighbor as thyself. » Very distinct essences. That's your assumption. I can easily as…

Rudeness, plays against yourself. I directly know people who lived in China, have been jailed and beaten there, and have literal scars to prove it. Hard to brush this away easily from my mind. Not all people who express negative views on China are alike.

>Rudeness, plays against yourself.

I don't mind you expressing your (ignorant) opinion, and I wouldn't stoop so low as to call it rude. It's just you're not knowledgeable.

>I directly know people who lived in China, have been jailed and beaten there, and have literal scars to prove it. Hard to brush this away easily from my mind.

I directly know people from prison in the US who have similar if not worse injuries and scars. They have also told me of people who have died due to prison violence. I understand how it's easy to selectively brush away the atrocities done in the US while only focusing on the Chinese. If I were like you, I would label it as "self centered" because you don't give a shit about prisoners in the US, you only care about your Chinese friends because they serve as evidence for your biased views against China. I'm so sorry but there's no other way to look at it.

>Not all people who express negative views on China are alike.

No, I never claimed this. But I did claim that you're wrong and ignorant. That being said... You do fit a typical trope that does often come from people who have negative views against China and it's selective focusing on certain things without looking at the big picture.

You have to know that I know people in the US who were in prisons where the prison guards allowed rape and violence to occur and turned a blind eye to it because it served their ulterior objectives. Does that action characterize the entire US? No. It doesn't.

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #351
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #183

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It seems to me that we're seeing precisely the opposite. Trump enjoys the appearance of inevitability, so whenever he finds something he cannot force through, he pretends that it doesn't matter to him and he never really cared about it in the first place. I'd encourage you to make a list of the top 10 things you're worried he's about to do now, and check back in a few months to see how many of them came true. One big…

I'd encourage you to make a list of the top 10 things you're worried he's about to do now, and check back in a few months to see how many of them came true. I don't have to "check back in a few months." Look at what he's accomplished in only one year : https://www.project2025.observer/en . Far more than he was able to do in his four previous years in office. Trump is basically doing all the things that he wanted to d…

I looked at this site, and a number of the items have a big red gavel marker with a label saying "Court Orders: Blocked". To me this sounds like it's saying court orders are capable of blocking Trump and have in fact blocked Trump from completing the marked items. Am I misinterpreting?
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