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Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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I have a Model Y with AI hardware version 4. It is phenomenal at self-driving, and if your impression of FSD is a year old or older, then you are woefully out of date in understanding where the tech is today. If I could, I would send my own grade school child off to her friend's houses and extracurricular activities in my car unaccompanied. It is safer than buses, taxis, and me. Not since Tesla created the first econ…

Would you say it's better/safer than Waymo?

I've never been in a Waymo, but I am impressed with them from what I've seen reported.

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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> I'll let you find the video, it's brutal This Daily Mail article¹ has it. It.. doesn't look brutal to me? Just looks like the minibus driver, who was driving on the median , veered across it into the oncoming lane to crash with the semi. He wasn't in a lane to begin with. > Allegedly caused by lane assist activating out of the blue Yeah dawg, imma need a second opinion on this. This is alleged by the survivors of t…

> This Daily Mail article The Daily Mail really isn't a reputable news source.

You missed the part that I linked it for the video.

You don't have to read the rest of the article.

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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thanks anon for rectifying the record.

with the daily mail? I don't think so

Yes, with the video recording that happens to be hosted by Daily Mail, and three other sources I cited for information about the incident.

> I don't think

Could've stopped there. Ditto for reading.

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If GM killed it to keep it from succeeding, then there is massive precedent to never reuse the tech. In fact, their NiMH battery patents were sold to Texaco/Chevron who held them close and never let anyone use them. From that point, they couldn't follow-up without dumping even more cash into it, effectively burying it. Until new lithium battery tech matured, there was no way to do it again.

>If GM killed it to keep it from succeeding They didn't, and this is just absurd. Not only were electric cars available since the very beginning of cars , but they've always been available as niche options. There are tens of electric cars that postdate the EV1 and predate the Tesla. Do you even know their names? We have stupidly cheap gas. An electric car has only ever been a curiosity for America. Even now, the prim…

Exactly. The battery tech the EV1 had was never going to be a big seller in the US.

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Diverting?

In Italian divertente is entertaining. Parent probably speaks a Romance language and got hit by a "false friend".

That's actually a valid (of old fashioned) usage in English too, it's just a bit weird to value in a voice assistant for your car.

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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In everyone else’s case too. This was supposed to be a Startup News site. Instagram was supposed to be a way to check into cool places in your neighbourhood and see who was around.

In both of those cases, the platforms actually did those things at some point in time and for one later pivoted a few times. When did SpaceX do Earth-to-Earth commercial travel service? How many people have ridden on a BFR?

Did Burbn ever have an in-person community? Was HN ever a successful startup news site like TechCrunch?

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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What if I don't have my phone, or if someone else drives the car?

These are niche enough use cases I don't think they're worth bothering about. I wouldn't dump millions into a custom GPS solution for that 1 time out of 1 million someone drives a car without a smartphone. Especially when that GPS system is guaranteed to be worse than Google maps and not as well supported. If someone else drives your car they can connect their phone. Which is an improvement, because now they have THE…

It should be impossible to drive a car without a phone?

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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Are you sure about that? The sustainable operation of modern cars is in doubt, from very specialized parts and fully integrated modules, to critical software that will not be updated, to dealer keying required for most every substitute part, the era of anyone being able to run cars for 200,000 miles long after the warranty is over will soon be in the history books.

You say this like the average age and reliability of cars hasn't been skyrocketing for years. Toyota offers a 10-year warranty on new cars, which would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. You can't update the infotainment, but the engine controls have remained modular because it's simply too hard to convince people to buy truly unrepairable cars. Tesla did it, and once people realized that gently tapping a Model 3 wa…

My mother drives a 12 year old car. If you don't use it much and have a parking garage cars are pretty much indestructible.

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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I owned a model 3 and two model Ss. I largely regard model S as the best sedan ever made (in less than 100k USD luxury price range). No, model 3 doesn't even come close. Plus you can buy a 3yr old model S "like new" at the price of a new model 3.

Tesla is committing suicide here by eliminating the best sedan ever and by committing to an idea (taxis) that mainly serve the low end market.

Message to Musk: people like to own things. Only the low end segment don't mind sharing their means of transportation. High end won't share. Biggest profits in tech are in the high end market as Apple and Samsung have repeatedly shown.

Re: Tesla is committing automotive suicide

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post #127

I have a Model Y with AI hardware version 4. It is phenomenal at self-driving, and if your impression of FSD is a year old or older, then you are woefully out of date in understanding where the tech is today. If I could, I would send my own grade school child off to her friend's houses and extracurricular activities in my car unaccompanied. It is safer than buses, taxis, and me. Not since Tesla created the first econ…

> Not since Tesla created the first economically viable EV for the American public have I been as excited about a revolution in automotive technology.

What do you mean by "economically viable" and "for the American public"? I wouldn't count the Roadster because it was expensive (~$100k) and only produced in limited numbers (~2500 over its lifetime). I'd say that to count as for the American public a car has to be quite a bit more affordable than that, and quite a bit more available.

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