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Heathrow scraps liquid container limit

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Post by dxdm »

nottorp wrote: post #376
dxdm wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be sad. One step at a time. One more trip-end to connect to other trip-ends. Or do you want to wait with roll-out until the whole world is ready to do it at the same time? Always look on the bright side of life. :)

My deodorant isn't available in those small travel containers :( And it's the only thing i really care about, I can do with any random toothpaste and shaving foam that i buy on arrival. But maybe it will happen in my lifetime.

Ok, that's a bummer.

Here's a silly idea that is probably not new to you, but just in case: have you looked into refillable deodorant dispensers?

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Post by summarity »

andai wrote: post #6
jbellis wrote: post #2

Not because of a sudden outbreak of sanity, but because they have CT scanners now.

Yeah, I flew thru Eindhoven Airport in the Netherlands a few years ago, and I couldn't believe they let me through with water. The security used something I would describe as out of an Iron Man film, they were zooming around a translucent 3D view of my backpack. (It was on an LCD display instead of hovering midair, but I was still impressed. But the fact they let me keep the water was even more amazing, hahah.)

They’re multi wavelength CT. Basically whenever you see a 4:3 box with a “smiths” logo over the belt it’s going to be a pretty painless process (take nothing out except analog film)

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Post by fc417fc802 »

drob518 wrote: post #341
throwaway290 wrote: post #211

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> they don't stop weapons (lots of airports outside the US have simple metal detectors for that.) There are 3D printed guns.

You still need metal parts, notably a gun barrel capable of holding extreme pressures until the bullet gets up to speed. That isn’t plastic. The grip and frame might be plastic, but not the barrel.

This is either incorrect or only technically correct. In the context of smuggling a weapon through a metal detector at a checkpoint there are nonferrous and even entirely plastic variants. Possessing them is generally illegal because essentially the only purpose is for assassinations.

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Post by ExoticPearTree »

smcl wrote: post #275
hdgvhicv wrote: post #210

Flew through Heathrow a few months ago. Signs flashing on the screens specifically saying laptops must be removed, security guys yelling “don’t remove laptops”

This was my experience too - they're visibly angry at you for following the rules

Flying through JFK once, security lines had different rules: Line one, laptop in, shoes out. Line two, laptop out, shoes stayed. Line 3, nothing out. It was hilarious, because TSA agents would talk over each other, confusing the hell out of everyone.

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Post by summarity »

nlawalker wrote: post #143
bulbar wrote: post #120

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When you don't know much about a topic, probability is higher that your are missing some piece than some entity doing things that make no sense. I know it's easy to get the impression that's not the case. But when your stop making fun of / belittle such events / persons / decision and be curious instead you start to realize that more often than not you are just missing a piece of information. The truth oftentimes is…

You’re right. I am genuinely curious though, so I shouldn’t have been so snarky about it. I’ll try again: I’ve always been under the impression that large containers of liquids were forbidden because they were potentially dangerous. If that hasn’t changed, and if the new technology is only about being able to better detect the presence of liquids in packed luggage, why have the limits on container size changed? EDIT:…

Not just the presence but the material itself: https://www.smithsdetection.com/products/sdx-10060-xdi/

It’s X-ray diffraction

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Post by fc417fc802 »

edm0nd wrote: post #403
fc417fc802 wrote: post #313

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Those don't generally have any ferrous components.

yes but the spring in the magazine does. also the rails on the lower, the barrel, etc.

Not in the context of someone smuggling a weapon through a security checkpoint. At least not unless they're certain that it's small enough not to trigger the detector.

That said I will note that it is generally illegal to possess such nonferrous weapons regardless of circumstance.

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Post by [deleted] »

n4r9 wrote: post #349
Halan wrote: post #344

How is this news? A lot of airports in Europe had had this for years and even in England there were terminals within the major hubs where this was already the norm

Heathrow is by far the largest airport in the UK, with several times more flights per day than any other, and flights to a broader range of destinations. So it affects a lot more prospective fliers. I looked up European airports and found some mention that Rome and Milan also have this new equipment, but they're both still significantly smaller than Heathrow.

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Post by littlecranky67 »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #400
mlrtime wrote: post #392

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>so everybody can get undressed Wait what? What are you removing? Flying in the US this week I removed nothing but a winter coat. Everything went on as normal, nothing out of bags, jut coat off.

Probably the same thing as you, but lost in translation. Removing jackets, maybe shoes, winter coats, hoodies etc. Not undressed in the "everything but your underwear" sense.

Exactly. Plus belts, watches, removing phone/wallet/headphones from your pockets etc. And taking Laptop OUT of your luggage onto separate trays, your liquids into a clear plastic bag, etc. Very often, during that process, the staff members recognize people having liquid containers with more than 100ml capacity (shampoo, hair gel, etc.) and can tell the people that they can't take it aboard etc. I happen to fly frequently to what are busy tourist destinations, and especially older people seem to be completely unaware of any regulations what you can and can't carry along - even though those regulation have been in place for 20+ years. That is very time intensive.

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Post by lambdaone »

nlawalker wrote: post #15

Let me get this straight. If the article is correct, the new capabilities are related to better detection of large liquid containers, not determination of whether or not the liquid is dangerous. So - you couldn’t take large amounts of liquids previously because some liquids in large amounts might be able to be weaponized. If you were caught with too much liquid (in sum total, or in containers that are too large) they…

It can detect not only large containers of liquids, but (up to a point) what liquid is in them.
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