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Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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I'm confused, do you not know what "we" means?

Yes, I have no idea who's this magical "we" in your "We can simply". To me this seems like a textbook coordination problem leading to a tragedy of the commons- even if you got 99.9% of the world into your "we", the remaining "defectors" would have a massive benefit from using AI to replace human labor.

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Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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It's insane how much AIs use Tailwind and yet the companies aren't contributing anything. It would be trivial for Anthropic or Cursor to pay something . Would it work to have a new free-use license that explicitly excludes LLMs? Make them pay royalties - you'd have to use something like public license keys. But if Spotify pays a trivial license payment for every stream - Claude could contribute something when it reco…

If they tailwind, it sets a precedent for others. They can't pay everyone.

So you're saying that just because they can't pay everyone, they should pay no one?

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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It is "progress" when tech bros displace traditional workers, but it is "heartbreaking" when a tech bro gets displaced by other tech bros. Whats the 2026 version of "you should learn to code" ?

"You should learn how to vibecode and ship whatever works enough, as fast as possible, to get bought for a wildly disconnected from fundamentals valuation." This may sound flippant, or low quality, but it I assure that it is not intended to be. It is derived from observations of the current tech macro. Quality does not appear to matter, ethics do not appear to matter, sustainability and engineering rigor do not appea…

> Quality does not appear to matter, ethics do not appear to matter, sustainability and engineering rigor do not appear to matter

I don't know why people keep saying this, as if quality, ethics and sustainability mattered before and every developer was a pure artisan of their craft. In reality, having been in many companies and looking at their codebases, it has always been slop, with very few exceptions.

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> No discovery - no business. I do SEO as a side gig to my 9-5 as a developer. All four of my freelance companies I work with have seen their traffic drop up to 40% since LLM's have effectively taken over and people are using search engines less and less. We've had to pivot to short form social media advertising which seems to be closing the gap whereas before the majority of our leads were coming from organic search…

The real question is, have your actual qualified leads decreased? So much traffic is bogus or looking for something adjacent to what they land on that I'm not entirely convinced AI is at fault here. It very well could be, but I'd love to see a real deep dive rather than potential coincidence.

If you can identify scraping bots, can’t you just serve them pages and pages of Lor Ipsum text

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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You should learn to vote for UBI?

Everyone suggests UBI like this sort of thing is a massive hurricane and we just gotta take it on the chin. Nah man, this stuff isn't happening anywhere else. We can simply say "No, you don't get to ruin the economy for your personal profit."

Not only can we not just do that (you did not even define what you mean), but China is coming out with models that are good enough for this purpose - and they are, because they are open, everywhere.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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What is your alternative, when the price humans can sell their labor at dips below what is necessary for them to survive? All these takes about "UBI will demolish the human spirit" or whatever are just ridiculous when the alternative is "starve to death".

I see two alternatives, one that people find new ways to do productive work with or in the presence of LLM, or massive social unrest, rebellion, war and/or starving to death, followed by a reset. I.e. the way human nature has responded to similar imbalances in the past.

So, you have no actual thoughts on this topic other than "UBI is bad" is what I hear.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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Taking their sponsors page at face value and doing the math, they're bringing in close to $100k/month with corporate sponsorships alone... how much money could maintaining a framework possibly cost?

They had 8 employees

Sure, but to maintain a CSS framework? Seems like they way overhired.

Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team

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Underscoring the parent comment and adding to it: watching technologists on a site called Hacker News cheer on the centralization of power is really something.

I don't think any power is as centralized as Google is to search about 10 years ago? Or Facebook is to social media in the same time frame? What has changed other than the players?

Google still offered a path for business/individuals that allowed both sides to profit immensely via advertising. Google also guided people to sources of information once you look past the ads.

With the AI companies, they suck up all freely available and proprietary information, hide the sources, and give information away to consumers for mostly free.

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