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I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by coldtea »

dangus wrote: post #409
coldtea wrote: post #392

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Wouldn't it be a shame dying with those in one's cold dead hands, without ever learning how much better options exist?

I’m quite aware that better options exist. I’ve dined at multiple or different 2 Michelin star restaurants, not to brag or anything. But sometimes this “corporate bad” mentality is just vapid snobbery. I’m better than you because I don’t support big bad corporate. Of course, companies aren’t created equal, regardless of size or status of being public or private. Some are run very well and ethically and some are not.…

It's not about "corporate bad", it's about those two doing exemplary bad food. That's beyond any shady practices or whatever (not our topic anyway).

At least Olive Garden, Cheesecake Factory does better.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by coldtea »

cdelsolar wrote: post #397
coldtea wrote: post #392

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Wouldn't it be a shame dying with those in one's cold dead hands, without ever learning how much better options exist?

tell me something tastier than olive garden breadsticks

Garlic bread at any half-decent Italian restaurant?

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by sushisource »

__jonas wrote: post #218
ashvardanian wrote: post #210

I’m currently using a mix of Zed, Sublime, and VS Code. The biggest missing piece in Zed for my workflow right now is side-by-side diffs. There’s an open discussion about it, though it hasn’t seen much activity recently: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770 Stronger support for GDB/LLDB and broader C/C++ tooling would also be a big win. It’s pretty wild how bloated most software has become. Huge th…

I agree with that comment chain about the intelliJ diff view so much https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/26770#disc... I don't even need that to be built into the editor – I would pay for a fast, standalone git UI that is as good as the IntelliJ one. I use Sublime Merge right now and it's kind of ok but definitely not on the same level

I dunno if you are aware, but you can use the diff/merge standalone. My gift to you:

     [mergetool "intellij"]
     cmd = 'intellij-idea-ultimate-edition' merge "$LOCAL" "$REMOTE" "$BASE" "$MERGED"
     trustExitCode = true

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by blks »

lioeters wrote: post #186
bpasero wrote: post #131

We maintain a single VS Code setting that allows you to opt out of the AI features provided in VS Code: "chat.disableAIFeatures" (see also: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_104#_hide-and-disab... ). If you can still find AI features appearing after you have configured this setting, then please report an issue at https://github.com/microsoft/vscode and we are happy to take a look. It is possible that from time…

Bravo, I respect that VS Code has added a single setting to disable all AI features. It prioritizes user choice and agency. Considering there was a recent rebranding as "the open source AI code editor", it means a lot to new and existing users that there's a choice to not use AI. For many companies and products it's apparently hard to do these days when LLM integration is the hot new thing pushed by management and in…

When they brand themselves like that, it’s a clear sign for people who dislike “AI” not to use it. Zed having some opt-out “AI” features now was one of the reasons for me to stop even considering properly trying it again.

Emacs it is, still.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by blks »

apetresc wrote: post #194
illiac786 wrote: post #193

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I really don’t get this attitude. What deal do you mean? You using VS Code? Why not change the setting simply?

Because the point is just to loudly proclaim how virtuously anti-AI you are, how disruptive it actually is to your workflow is irrelevant.

In my experience it’s people with “agents” mass editing their code, in their 10th attempt to convince their tool to do what they want it do, are people with a disrupted workflow, in a constant struggle with their tools.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by blks »

compounding_it wrote: post #315
nottorp wrote: post #313

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> It is possible that from time to time a new AI related feature slips in that does not respect that setting You mean marketing forces you to "accidentally" slip it in? Just in case it sticks this time?

I don't know about marketing but if code reviews are done right I would love to know how something like 'AI feature' just slips in.

Perhaps people pushing AI slop are not that great at doing good code reviews; which is a shame, really.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by spartanatreyu »

sgc wrote: post #373
spartanatreyu wrote: post #303

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How is googling it meant to work when they keep changing what the AI settings are called each month?

Alternatively, use the single setting that was literally just given to you above. That is pretty much as easy as it gets without resurrecting Clippy to help you figure it out. It's not reasonable to expect a massive bloated gui if people have 10k+ settings they are using.

The problem is that they keep adding new ai "features" all under different names and different settings, then shuffling the settings around.

Having a "master switch" doesn't matter, since their standard operating procedure is to waffle-stomp more "features" into vscode every month that will fall under a different setting and then they'll continue to shuffle them around.

Their indifference towards their own user-hostility with regards to this is the main problem.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by artdigital »

NordSteve wrote: post #372
artdigital wrote: post #252

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Btw, Zed has a similar setting to turn off all AI features :)

And I'm sure they'll never forget to connect an AI feature to it.

Your point here being? In that case people will complain, and the next release will have it included into the setting

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by dijit »

coldtea wrote: post #389
dijit wrote: post #344

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I think this is quite ironic actually. If I understood the history correctly, being a "shareholder" was a path to a fractional business ownership for people who could not afford to outright own a business. It comes from the same mental position as a co-operative. In these scenarios, a CEO is really just an employee of sorts for the shareholders. It's quite funny that we see the CEO of a publicly traded company has wo…

> It's quite funny that we see the CEO of a publicly traded company has worse than a sole-proprietor, when profits will go directly to a sole proprietor- but not to a shareholder CEO. Speaking in the same mindset as the parent, we're fine with the profits going directly to a sole proprietor. In fact, what we want is a name attached to the profits, and a not a role. We're not anti-profits. We're anti bland corporate l…

This is a totally fair point to make.

As mentioned though, the irony is in that, once upon a time, the lords and landed gentry were the "bland, soulless overlords" and so buying things would improve their profits... and nobody could become them.

Then the idea of fractional ownership came about and the common man could buy in to an enterprise.

Now of course, everyone is correct that this has been weaponised- but it's often interesting to go back to the original intent (or idea) of something to see how warped it has become.

Re: I switched from VSCode to Zed

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Post by cube00 »

cube00 wrote: post #345
cube00 wrote: post #143

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Weird it's a static site that still got hugged to death.

Something is going on, it's still timing out for me 20 hours later. curl https://tenthousandmeters.com curl: (35) TLS connect error: error:0A000126:SSL routines::unexpected eof while reading

Confirmed it works from AWS but not from my residential ISP. IPv6 is not setup so perhaps too much traffic out of the CGNAT IP got us blocked.
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