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Post by abdullahkhalids »

cortesoft wrote: post #328
lemming wrote: post #292

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If this law pushes back against the idea that it's ok to make endless tech products which are essentially future rubbish as soon as you buy them, then I think that's a good thing. Perhaps products like this just shouldn't exist until we have better ways of dealing with the remains.

Who gets to choose what products are future rubbish? Even if you think this product is a waste of resources, why is THIS waste of resources something we should stop, but not other, bigger wastes? Should we outlaw flying somewhere when you could take a train? The fuel spent on a short flight wastes way more resources and damages the environment much more than this smart ring does. If we are willing to ban this piece o…

There are already several existing and proposed bans on short haul flights when train routes exist. [1, 2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-haul_flight_ban

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2024/03/18/spain-sho...

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Post by Forgeties79 »

arscan wrote: post #299
Aurornis wrote: post #163

> How long does the battery last? > Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording. On average, I use it 10-20 times per day to record 3-6 second thoughts. That’s up to 2 years of usage. I feel like I’m usually good about being able to imagine a market for different devices even when I’m not the target audience, but I’m having a hard time with this one. Having 20 different 3-second thoughts transcribed to notes that I have to p…

I think this could be useful for the type of person that uses uses todo lists to help them tackle lots of small tasks that they intend to do immediately but somehow get distracted mid-action from and never finish (and then forget about altogether). As described in this blog post that front-paged hn some time ago: > When I notice a micro-task like this, my instinct is not to do it, but to put it in the todo list. Then…

As someone with ADHD that’s me. I don’t think this product is for me, but I have to immediately write a thing down or do it. Otherwise it’s lost. Importance is irrelevant.

Funny enough I have a pebble core 2 duo from this team. There’s a simple voice app that jots down a short note quickly on the watch, it can support 10 notes total. I love it. I only use it when I really need to throw something down immediately and I can’t clutter it up with nonsense. It also means I check it every day because it’s not daunting.

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Post by skeledrew »

frankest wrote: post #325
skeledrew wrote: post #243

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Already a part of it. Recordings are saved (on the sync device) in case a transcript is a bust.

Yes, but they mention there will be a subscription plan for their cloud-based transcription. If you want an open platform of devices - ensure users can use a range of transcription providers for quality and security.

You have the options of using the transcription in the app, subscribing to their cloud service, or building out your own service that access the data via webhooks:

> I love customizing and hacking on my devices. What could I do with Index 01?

> Lots of stuff! Control things with the buttons. Route raw audio or transcribed text directly to your own app via webhook. Use MCPs (also run locally on-device! No cloud server required) to add more actions.

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Post by lurk2 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #391
pedalpete wrote: post #321

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We regularly get contacted by people in Europe who want to buy our product, but we haven't been providing support due to the cost of certs, and other regulatory needs (medical/wellness device). We want to help people in the EU, but with laws like replaceable batteries, it's going to push us further and further away from being able to do that. Our product is designed to be refurbished, but not user-replaceable. At the…

> Do people replace their phones because the battery isn't good anymore, or is it more likely they've broken the screen, cameras, etc to the point where it doesn't make sense to replace those anymore? Or they just want the newest thing? This is why repairability isn't restricted to just the battery. And buying the newest thing every year is kinda frowned upon here in the EU now. I'm sure some people still do it but m…

> And buying the newest thing every year is kinda frowned upon here in the EU now.

Is there any evidence that Europeans aren’t buying new phones at the same rate that they used to?

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Post by apparent »

rendx wrote: post #269

Regulation (EU) 2023/1542 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 12 July 2023 concerning batteries and waste batteries Article 11 Removability and replaceability of portable batteries and LMT batteries 1. Any natural or legal person that places on the market products incorporating portable batteries shall ensure that those batteries are readily removable and replaceable by the end-user at any time during th…

How do other smart-ring companies deal with this?

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Post by apparent »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #343
MarkusWandel wrote: post #255

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I'm not a watch person, and the only reason I occasionally wear one is because it's a Garmin and I'm recording an outdoor activity with it. But while cycling, when the phone in my backpack makes a notification noise, it is kind of handy to just be able to look at the watch to see what kind of notification it is - the kind hardly worth looking at or the kind worth stopping and pulling out the phone to reply to. This p…

> if there was a single button audio recording app Would the watch require 1 or 2 hands to record audio? The ring seems easier to use while biking. Or driving.

It's easy to use a Pebble while driving. Not like you can't take one hand off the wheel briefly to hit a button.

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Post by nebulous1 »

tw04 wrote: post #4

Not sure how I feel about it being a throwaway device for $100. I get they say you can send it back to be recycled, but this feels like you’re just proactively creating e-waste. Not even an attempt to make a replaceable or chargeable battery? Also they point out oura rings need to be charged every few days, but that’s because they’re constantly chewing through battery monitoring your health stats. I’m willing to bet…

Their Oura comparison really didn't sit well with me because of that. The device clearly uses a fraction of the power that the Oura is using. If it had a rechargeable battery you would not have to charge it that frequently.

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apparent wrote: post #416
rendx wrote: post #269

Regulation (EU) 2023/1542 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 12 July 2023 concerning batteries and waste batteries Article 11 Removability and replaceability of portable batteries and LMT batteries 1. Any natural or legal person that places on the market products incorporating portable batteries shall ensure that those batteries are readily removable and replaceable by the end-user at any time during th…

How do other smart-ring companies deal with this?

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