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We're losing our voice to LLMs

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Post by pixl97 »

everdrive wrote: post #339
pixl97 wrote: post #279

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>If any game had anything like a scoreboard, or a reward for input, he'd say "it's crack points!" I don't think it's exactly wrong, you just have to look at it on a spectrum of minimal addictiveness to meth level addiction. For example in quarter fed games getting a high score displayed to others was quite the addictive behavior.

I think if you look at it this way then "addiction" is just the far end of spectrum that includes any repeated behaviors whatsoever.

Why not, the term spectrum can go from 'not harmful at all' to 'kills you really damned fast. Life isn’t black and white and there are very wide ranges across people.

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

lutusp wrote: post #317

I'm in complete agreement with the idea that people should express themselves in their own words. But this collides with certain facts about U.S. adults (and students). This summary ( https://www.nu.edu/blog/49-adult-literacy-statistics-and-fac... ) reveals that: * 28% of U.S. adults are at or below "level 1" literacy, essentially meaning people unable to function in an environment that requires written language skil…

I'm in Canada and the landscape is OK. But we can definitely do better. Without properly educated men and women, I'm afraid that democracy degrades to either 1) elites stop caring about responsibilities, or 2) demagogues rallying against the elites in 1)

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Post by hhh »

__float wrote: post #408
hhh wrote: post #359

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Bullshit. You can just use ANY abliterated model or non-safety aligned model. People have popularized ‘hard r or you’re hardware’ for a while now, but any self hosted LLM that’s de-aligned will gladly say whatever. People believe this and continue to get fooled by LLMs all day.

I've never heard of this, and I'm not seeing much on Google. What spaces are you in that you see this??

Twitter

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Post by cinntaile »

LaGrange wrote: post #95
cinntaile wrote: post #50

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It's probably true that it reduces the barrier to entry, you don't refute that point in your post. You just call it cheap marketing and hype.

It doesn’t. You’re not entering anything with an LLM.

Of course you are. As the original poster mentioned, it allows lousy writers to get their ideas out in the world. Shitty writing is much more likely to be ignored than LLM writing.

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Post by port11 »

fragmede wrote: post #318
lambda wrote: post #289

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All of this sounds like something you could just do yourself after putting a piece down for a day or two and coming back to it with fresh eyes. What benefit is there of cooking the oceans with a bullshit generator? Like, sure, it's possible to do this with an LLM, but it's also possible to do it without, at roughly similar levels of effort, without contributing to all of the negative externalities of the LLM/genAI ec…

Because the complaints about the power and water usage of AI are mostly motivated reasoning. I don't like AI, therefore I'm going to find a reason not to like it. I Listen, if it's Greta Thunberg pointing out that AI datacenters use a lot of resources, yeah, I'm willing to listen. But when the voices saying "but what about all the water/electricity is wasting" is coming from individuals I know personally haven't prev…

So all uses of water, land, and power are the same?

They have no grading in terms of importance and priority, especially in a world contending with climate change, lack of arable land, lack of drinkable water, and so on? AI usage of these resources is on par with every other use?

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Post by port11 »

mkzet wrote: post #10

The Internet will become truly dead with the rise of LLMs. The whole hacking culture within 90s and 00s will always be the golden age. RIP

I'm not sure. Okay, lots of companies will use these automated blog generators that charge a few to automate content and posting. Fine. But who'll read that? Nobody. So I think the internet will eventually balance back to favouring actual human work, curated lists, etc.

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Post by agi_piggy »

coffeecoders wrote: post #99

I actually think we’re overestimating how much of "losing our voice" is caused by LLMs. Even before LLMs, we were doing the same tweet-sized takes, the same medium-style blog posts and the same corporate tone. Ironically, LLMs might end up forcing us back toward more distinct voices because sameness has become the default background.

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coffeecoders wrote: post #99

I actually think we’re overestimating how much of "losing our voice" is caused by LLMs. Even before LLMs, we were doing the same tweet-sized takes, the same medium-style blog posts and the same corporate tone. Ironically, LLMs might end up forcing us back toward more distinct voices because sameness has become the default background.

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Post by boxerab »

amrocha wrote: post #185
boxerab wrote: post #91

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This. Linkedin is garbage, yet I still use it because there are no competitors. This is what happens in a monoculture.

Do you really want a “competitor” to linkedin? Do you really want to have to make and manage accounts on multiple sites because you need a job and you don’t know which a company uses? Isn’t it better to have a single place you check when you need a job because everyone else is also there?

Do you really want a “competitor” to Facebook? Do you really want to have to make and manage accounts on multiple sites because you want to chat with someone and you don’t know which social media that person uses? Isn’t it better to have a single place you check when you need to chat with someone because everyone else is also there?
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