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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by alex1138 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #291
danpalmer wrote: post #59

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To be clear, this is not a value judgement. I pirate content sometimes, and I use adblockers, but ad blocking is definitely piracy – you're circumventing the method of paying for content. I realise that online ads have other implications such as tracking that, say, a blu-ray rip downloaded from a torrent doesn't have, but the reason for piracy doesn't change the fact that it is.

Ad blockers are recommended by the FBI as safety measures. I follow the FBI's advice. Internet ads are a vector for executing untrusted code that can invoke exploits and engage in invasive fingerprinting. Revert back to the 90s web with dumb ads and I'll look at them. It's amazing how blinkered people will be about potentially malicious programs downloaded from the internet just because it's hidden behind a browser i…

Forbes literally did this.

Guys, please disable your adblockers

People disable adblockers

Malware!

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Post by atombender »

hhh wrote: post #406
atombender wrote: post #131

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The YouTube app is easily the worst app on Apple TV. For example, if you pause the video by clicking the main action button brings up an overlay that takes up almost the whole screen, so you can no longer see the content in case you paused to freeze the frame. How do you start it again? By clicking the same button, right? No! By clicking up. For some reason up means back and down means to open some additional UI with…

You’re meant to use the dedicated pause button on the apple tv remote to pause without any overlay. Anything that uses the apple built in player has ui appear when you hit the center button. Same for Netflix.

No, in the Netflix app, the main button both pauses and unpauses. Same in every other app I use — except YouTube.

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Post by csomar »

binarymax wrote: post #130

Why. Why are they doing this. It’s the same with Netflix. I don’t understand. What is the metric that goes up when they show a couple giant videos.

It's an Ad. Next quarter their revenue is up 25%. Since they need to grow 25% each quarter, by the end of 2026 YouTube will strictly display only Ads.

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Post by Gazoche »

7373737373 wrote: post #8

Whoever made automatic AI dubs a default and impossible to disable also needs to be fired

Same for auto-translated titles. It's like they can't fathom the idea of people speaking more than one language. At least give an option to turn it off!

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Post by tailrecursion »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #261
tailrecursion wrote: post #200

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I'm not generating revenue for a lot of companies who are in the advertising business. That's not the definition of piracy. Find another word.

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I understand you about the implied contract. I think it's more complex than that. People were making videos before the promise of ad revenue, and they were better videos. If people go away who make videos for money - which will never happen - it would be an improvement overall. If ad blockers do win, YT could edit their ads into the videos themselves making an ad blocker's job harder. YTers who want money could make their own independent deals with advertisers, as some do today. And YT can always charge money - as they do right now with premium. But if YT did that for all tiers, they couldn't dominate and they'd have competitors spring up. They know that. They also know if they ever asked anyone whether they agree to watch ads, most would say No. The prevalence of Ad blockers are proof that people don't want to watch the ads. But, as you point out, we do accept the free content. The thing is the world would likely be better if YT would charge everyone for access. Judging from video quality these days a lot of YTers could be doing something more productive than what they're doing now - I mean in an objective sense, better for economic health. But the real reason for these $0 tech services is to stifle competition and prevent the market from working. And that works to everyone's detriment. Basic economics doesn't function without prices.

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Post by alex1138 »

I used to lurk the Google forums (they even changed the goddamn format of the forums now to where clicking things is tedious and I'm sure it's 100% intentional) and going back years with Google and also I suspect Youtube it was full of users complaining about "You're ignoring all our advice/wants in this thread". I don't remember all of it, but it was product managers being incredibly selective

The tyranny of distance (you can do x where x is usually 'ignore feedback' and you can get away with it separated by hundreds of miles, where otherwise you might get punched in the face) kills me with companies like this. You can't just ignore all of us (the customer isn't always right but it wouldn't kill you to listen every once and a while and if you don't, we'll gradually stop using your product). But you can, because listening to The People isn't where the product managers decide it should be or isn't where the ad dollars are or whatever

It's an emperor has no clothes situation. They know it we know it everybody knows it but we're all (corporate, anyway) just going to ignore it and plug our ears

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Post by polotics »

opello wrote: post #155
jonas21 wrote: post #140

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Those are there because the content creator you’re watching decided to put them there. It’s entirely up to them whether they show up and when they show up.

And they can be hidden, so it's not exactly entirely up to them, nor should it be. If they wanted them in the video content they could put them there.

how can they be hidden?

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Post by Sharlin »

tavavex wrote: post #231
charcircuit wrote: post #172

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It may reduce decision paralysis and they are hoping their recommendation is good enough.

I honestly think that at some point, there will be no recommendations page. You'll open YouTube and it'll start autoplaying the video that they (or the advertisers) think you should see. You'll be able to skip to other videos from there, like on short-form content platforms. Likes and subscriptions will dictate how likely it'll be that you'll see a video by that creator in the future. Search and other "outdated" feat…

Maybe you could have a couple of different feeds that you could choose from, we might call these "channels". You could perhaps assign numbers to the channels for convenient selection using the remote. Hmm, why does this remind me of something?

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Post by paperpunk »

hapticmonkey wrote: post #374
MBCook wrote: post #19

I noticed this morning there was a new version of the YouTube app on my Apple TV. I can’t wait to find out how they screwed this one up. My personal long-term complaint is the length of video titles. Lots of people like to make really long video titles. So right now there is one on my screen titled “The Best Decisions Every Video Game Console Developer Made”. Now if you didn’t know, that is not the whole title. But t…

Remember when the Youtube app overrode the AppleTV screensavers, to show their own screensavers if Youtube was paused. Any other app, you leave a video paused, the OS screensaver will come on. Those beautiful, aerial screensavers that are better than any screensaver I've ever seen in all my decades of working with computers. So of course the Youtube app had to block them with their own shitty variant. They have no ta…

Your comment is past tense - does that mean they’ve stopped doing this? Please, Lord. I had to set my ATV to go to screensaver in a ridiculously short amount of time to preempt the YouTube one.
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