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Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Re: Report: Tim Cook could step down as Apple CEO 'as soon as next year'

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Post by rzerowan »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #408
rzerowan wrote: post #219

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Interestingly enough if apple really wanted they could acquihire one of the currrent EV brands and do a beats/siri on it. Theres probably a lot of churn currently before the field stabilises , and probably the entry point for a new entrant would be currently closing.

What value could apple add though? They would just be diluting their brand. Even the beats acquisition is confusing.

Yeah, even the industrial design angle seems a bit on the wane.Most likely move to open a new product lineand integrate it into the apple ecosystem. At this point they havent had any new product lines or innovations rather than thinner and custom chip designs , if they want to go that way.Although i think a better fit for them would be one of the humanoid robot firms and apply some of that industrial design they are(were) famous for.

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Post by stinkbeetle »

snowwrestler wrote: post #217
stinkbeetle wrote: post #166

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No, Apple had been doing their own silicon (presumably you mean for their phones) while Jobs was still CEO, and he bought PA Semi in 2008 which put them on the path to do their own CPU cores (iPhone 5 with Swift CPU was released the year after he died so he'd obviously seen the core design process through from the beginning to likely initial tape-out or very close to).

Cook was COO through all of that too. He’s been at Apple since 1998.

Okay but the context was about things that were done under each CEO. Apple's Cook did a bunch of things, and he had other COO under him too.

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Post by m463 »

astrange wrote: post #291
m463 wrote: post #259

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"vision" would be to do things for the customer - actually allow privacy, even from apple itself. Like turn off telemetry, not just anonymize it. and opt-in, not opt-out. - install apps without asking permission - allow access to your data, for example to export your imessages Just in general be respectful and polite

Telemetry is opt-in. It asks you during setup.

not all telemetry

some cannot be disabled ("anonymized")

some is still opt-out

just off the top of my head on iphone: settings -> search -> help apple improve search

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Post by mvkel »

AndroTux wrote: post #292
rakejake wrote: post #239

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I often wonder why Satya Nadella is so venerated on HN compared to say, Cook or Pichai. As innovators, MS lags way behind both Google and Apple. I can't think of one bleeding edge product released during Satya's tenure. Say what you will about Apple and Google, they still consistently put out products that make you sit up and pay attention. What has MS been doing other than squeezing the MS Office and Azure cash cows…

Nadella is obviously a very smart and successful business leader. He achieved his goals and transformed Microsoft into a very successful, healthy company. This is why I personally think he isn’t just a bland idiot like for example Steve Ballmer. However, it’s clear that Nadella’s goals are everything but noble. He doesn’t care about the product, and he really doesn’t care about the customer. He only cares about numbe…

I assumed he was a product guy until I heard him on Dwarkesh's podcast. He does seem to really only get fired up about numbers going up, and customers are a vehicle for that.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

rzerowan wrote: post #411
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #408

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What value could apple add though? They would just be diluting their brand. Even the beats acquisition is confusing.

Yeah, even the industrial design angle seems a bit on the wane.Most likely move to open a new product lineand integrate it into the apple ecosystem. At this point they havent had any new product lines or innovations rather than thinner and custom chip designs , if they want to go that way.Although i think a better fit for them would be one of the humanoid robot firms and apply some of that industrial design they are(…

I guess I could go with an apple bot...especially if they partner with someone that really does AI. The Chinese techs however are better positioned to do this, even if a trade war cuts off access to the USA, they still have the rest of the world. One wonders what could have happened if Google didn't get rid of Boston Robotics.

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Post by mvkel »

rakejake wrote: post #304
AndroTux wrote: post #292

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Nadella is obviously a very smart and successful business leader. He achieved his goals and transformed Microsoft into a very successful, healthy company. This is why I personally think he isn’t just a bland idiot like for example Steve Ballmer. However, it’s clear that Nadella’s goals are everything but noble. He doesn’t care about the product, and he really doesn’t care about the customer. He only cares about numbe…

Ballmer doesn't strike me as an idiot and definitely not bland. He's one of the more colorful tech personalities. MS's almost unassailable lead in enterprise could be attributed to him and the pivot to cloud could not have happened without this. But he definitely fumbled hard on mobile (Windows Phone), Surface (IIRC the initial ARM laptop was a major flop and had a close to 1B+ writeoff) and the disaster that was the…

That's a pretty massive fumble. He was effectively trying to convert Microsoft into a hardware company; Satya marked the return to pure software, and Microsoft is now the biggest SaaS company in the world.

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Post by mvkel »

card_zero wrote: post #282
arresin wrote: post #198

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I thought that quote came from Bill Atkinson.

Hmm. Jobs used the bicycle metaphor extensively in this advert-interview thing: https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1050/0*SgDLtymZpgcXEA7... Which (squinting) was printed in the WSJ in 1980: https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1148/1*wXZ9t85eJnREeDw... But "bicycle for the mind" might be John Sculley, 1986: https://archive.org/details/apple-retro-books-collection/App... Unless of course Jobs said it earlier.

It's from a video interview with him in 1980:

“I read a study that measured the efficiency of locomotion for various species… The condor came in at the top. Humans came in about a third of the way down. But when a human rides a bicycle, we blow the condor away. That’s what a computer is for me: a bicycle for the mind.”

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Post by zaidf »

piazz wrote: post #336
zaidf wrote: post #283

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No. I don’t want Apple to make LLM Siri. I do wish they would become the company unlocking creativity instead of shackling it. I will give you one specific example: iOS has extreme limitations on what it allows app developers to display on the Lock Screen. The area each app gets is limited. What gets displayed and how is very limited. How often the data gets displayed is limited. This might sound like nitpick. But I…

How is doomscrolling profitable for Apple? Frankly I think it’s the opposite - Apple is one of the only BigCo without an advertising based biz model. Unlike say Meta, Apple didn’t profit directly from increased engagement with your iPhone (at least to a sizable extent), they profit when you purchase a new device. This alignment of incentives is what allows Apple to at least marginally prioritize user privacy in a way…

40% (and growing) of Apple’s profits are from services. Margins on services are 3x of hardware.

Apple doesn’t make money directly when you doom scroll but a lot of App Store revenue is a by product of people simply using their device in unlocked state.

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Post by JauntTrooper »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #284
ryandrake wrote: post #13

Cook's been great for massively scaling Apple (and its stock price) up, but the art, vision, and soul of the company is gone. It's just a stock price maximizing lawnmower now, just like every other corporate stock price maximizing lawnmower. If that's what shareholders want, fine, I guess. But I'd be bored just manufacturing the same boring rectangles every year. I think Steve would have been, too.

They shipped AirPods and the Apple Watch during his tenure. And the ahem, Vision Pro. The M-series chips are probably the biggest win for Apple in the past 15 years. There hasn't been lack of category killers during his stint. If anything they are running out of places on the human body where you can stick a small computer. Surely the next CEO will hopefully not ruin the company and brand by cramming ads into everyth…

The AirPods have been my biggest source of tech wonder in recent years.

The noise cancelation features, and now the live translation function? So cool.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

microtonal wrote: post #296
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #175

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I have the 22 SE and I suspect I’ll get 3 more years out of it before they EOL it. I would have bought the 16e if it wasn’t such a blatant money grab. Touch ID is going to be hard to give up

Touch ID is going to be hard to give up I'm kind of the opposite, I would never want to go back to Touch ID. It's so nice that you can set your notifications to be private by default, but the contents will be revealed when you glance at the phone.

I think it really matters how you store your phone as to the usefulness of Touch ID. Someone storing it in their front pocket will have it always available in an ideal position to unlock on grab, whereas someone storing it anywhere that doesn't lock it in a position like that is going to see less benefit of being able to unlock the thing as they grab it.
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