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Re: Steam Machine

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Post by groguzt »

GeekyBear wrote: post #396
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #367

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? From your mouth to Tim Cook's ear, friend.

Macs do allow both of those things. Valve is even borrowing some of the work done for the Mac version of Linux to add support for Proton on ARM hardware. > Gaming on Linux on M1 is here! We’re thrilled to release our Asahi game playing toolkit, which integrates our Vulkan 1.3 drivers with x86 emulation and Windows compatibility. https://rosenzweig.io/blog/aaa-gaming-on-m1.html

Apple allow this kind of thing only on Mac and while also ensuring it does not happen by providing 0 documentation and by not contributing to any outside project. FEX was not made as part of the Asahi Linux project btw. Please inform yourself before making statements

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by porphyra »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #381

The elephant in the room: "will this game run on my Steam Machine?" This is really the part a lot of people don't understand and not a qestion you even have to ask when you buy/download a game for a console. Some of the biggest games right now like BF6, COD, or Fortnite, League of Legends, chinese gacha games won't run on this. That excludes a massive part of the market, many of whom would be the exact audience for a…

You can likely install Windows on Steam Machine if you so wish, and then it would actually be a fairly competent mini PC while having great and silent cooling. However, I suppose most casual gamers aren't savvy enough to tinker and install their own OS.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by sph »

pndy wrote: post #393

The body is really simple and appealing but as these are rare nowadays I wish they'd consider squeezing an optional optical drive inside or perhaps maybe some external one that would stack on top.

Aren’t external optical drives quite cheap and only require a USB connection? You could consider that instead and stack it on top.

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Post by energy123 »

A reason to get this instead of Playstation/Xbox is that games on Steam are significantly cheaper through keys sites like g2a.com or just waiting for discounts.

Playstation/Xbox know you're locked in because you've already sunk money into the console, and they use this pricing power against you.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by paperpunk »

tagyro wrote: post #407

[off-topic rant] Two companies, both (quasi) monopolies in their field. Company A built its fortune by exploiting people. Company B built its fortune by building (somewhat) decent products. Company A developed a very advanced approach to hiring: specific questions to assess a candidate’s psychometric profile, screens to weed out bad choices, and a laser focus on the "top 0.1%". Company B made it very public that hiri…

I love Valve games and I love that they are spending their resources in areas I care about and that feel underserved by other companies, but I don't think the moral comparison is so clear cut. They were also pioneers in micro-transactions, loot crates, software distribution tax, and turning Counter-Strike skins into a speculative frenzy.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by energy123 »

msabalau wrote: post #338
Ekaros wrote: post #6

>RAM 16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM Hmm. Not that it is big deal, but I would be somewhat worried about true longevity with the VRAM. Not sure if SteamOS helps there, but on PC some new titles are going over the 8GB VRAM.

You always have the option of streaming a game, though. 8 GB is good enough for most everything, and can you stream on an exception basis, if something truly demanding catches your eye.

It should be good enough for any game with a toggle on textures quality, which is pretty much every big title for the foreseeable future?

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by InvertedRhodium »

quasigod wrote: post #59
thadt wrote: post #29

Pretty much the only reason I boot to Windows anymore is to play games with my kids and family. The direction of this thing is dangerously close to being all I'd care about from a desktop computer. If Valve pivoted into making a well-supported laptop with good hardware that ran Linux and played games...

Just wondering, what games are you playing that dont run on Linux yet? I can't think of games I'd play much with family that dont work well

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Re: Steam Machine

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Post by drnick1 »

agentifysh wrote: post #321
catears wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like other commenters, I also recently made the switch. Figured I would dual-boot windows but have never needed to boot it back up again. ProtonDB is a goldmine when a game doesn't work. Oh, and switching from Nvidia GPU to AMD GPU seems to have worked great to get games to "just work".

one limitation for Bazzite for instance would be some titles that require anti-cheating won't work but just like OP, only use case I have for windows is gaming and running some banking app which won't work on non-Windows device love to see more and more users realize they can game just fine on linux

It's time to stop buying such games and send game studios a signal that we won't tolerate rootkits and/or closed platforms. Anti-cheats should run server-side, or better yet, servers should be community-operated. I would probably bought BF6, but since I exclusively use Arch, EA lost a sale -- too bad for them there are thousands of other games that work flawlessly on Linux.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by pjmlp »

bigyabai wrote: post #408
pjmlp wrote: post #382

Maybe this will have better luck this time, and who knows, studios might finally care to do at Steam OS native builds.

Maybe they'll pull a Cyberpunk, and just add a "Steam Machine" setting to their Windows version when you run it in translation. I'd prefer that. It's easier for developers, easier for me, and only harms the already-negligible market of curmudgeonly native pundits that probably don't use Steam in the first place.

Then eventually they will suffer the same fate as OS/2 "runs Windows better".

Don't build castles on kingdoms ruled by other overlords.

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