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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by LogicHound »

embedding-shape wrote: post #129
LogicHound wrote: post #96

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It got nothing to do with someone being a developer and having tunnel vision. In fact I would argue that many people that work in tech would be the most likely to sold on such a feature. It has everything to do with being frugal and whether you see the utility. There is very little benefit in being alerted when I am low on eggs because I can simply open the fridge and look. I can also normally buy eggs anywhere, at a…

Yeah, which is easy to reason about because you're probably used to reason about stuff, sometimes even a lot. But lots of the average person don't do much of that sort of reasoning, lots of people live life basically on impulses. They buy stuff based on their feelings, not based on "does this solve an actual problem I have that actually needs solving?".

> Yeah, which is easy to reason about because you're probably used to reason about stuff, sometimes even a lot.

I reason about the same amount as anyone else.

> But lots of the average person don't do much of that sort of reasoning, lots of people live life basically on impulses. They buy stuff based on their feelings, not based on "does this solve an actual problem I have that actually needs solving?".

1) There is no such thing as the "average" person.

2) There is nothing special about you, I or anyone else. The fact is that everyone makes lots of irrational decisions every single day without thinking about it.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by pndy »

Hansenq wrote: post #374

Everyone here seems to hate on the idea of seeing ads on an appliance you purchased. I hate ads too! But, let's consider the counterfactual. What if Samsung offered you a new fridge for free, as long as you were ok with passive ads? I hate ads, but I'm not sure I would pass up a free fridge...those things are expensive! (this is not even that unrealistic. Let's say you have a household of 3 and a fridge lasts 10 year…

> What if Samsung offered you a new fridge for free, as long as you were ok with passive ads?

I'd still buy a normal fridge from a different vendor. There's absolutely no reason why fridge needs a display screen nor any "smart" features. And no ad deal would convince me because next thing that would come after this would be the obvious "watch ads to unlock the fridge".

Household appliances are meant to work for years - sure, now lifespan is way shorter than used to be but these aren't phones we're replacing every 3 years or so. The fridge we once had lasted 25 up until cooling unit failed and there was no way to replace it or fix.

I hope you rolled some really low bait here because if you really think like that then... I sincerely feel sorry for you.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by com2kid »

tensor wrote: post #386
embedding-shape wrote: post #73

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I dunno, my family started buying LG stuff for our appliances and otherwise, and none of the stuff has forceful ads on them, at least yet. Currently I think we have LG TVs, fridge, dish washer, drier, washing machine and something else I can't remember, all of them working well, has nice and fast at-home support when needed and no ads even on the TVs.

LG tvs have ads now. In fact, there are no TVs that are ad free at all anymore. At least keeping them unplugged from the internet usually prevents the ads… for now. True dystopia.

Not true. Sony Android TVs can have all the ads disabled. Google disables voice input as a result, but otherwise I am ad free.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by Dylan16807 »

TylerE wrote: post #243
kstrauser wrote: post #91

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That's correct. I can't use it at all with my Apple TV or Playstation 5, because the screen immediately goes dark. I don't know how to describe this exactly, but say that the TV's regular RGB display goes from 1 to 100. I'd expect that HDR would make it go from -50 to 150, or something like that. Instead, on my Samsung, it goes from -50 to 50. No amount of control fiddling can make it get as bright as it does in non-…

> I'd expect that HDR would make it go from -50 to 150 That's not how HDR works. It expands the high range exclusively. So more like 0 to 1000 instead of 0 to 100.

Your approximation isn't really better than theirs.

It's true that you can't go below black, but SDR has extremely bad precision below 1 nit. HDR can accurately represent scenes at least 100x darker than SDR, in addition to bright spots at least 100x brighter. https://2.img-dpreview.com/files/p/TS940x940~forums/66687985...

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by johnnyanmac »

prawn wrote: post #181

Can't stand behaviour like this. I pay for Spotify and the app now shows paid suggestions ( cough ads), to paying users. When you tap the ellipsis and choose "Not interested", it doesn't respond with "OK, we'll stop" but something like 'We'll show less of this'. No, don't show less, I want you to not show it at all.

I imagine a modern hacker needs to basically shun all fo mainstream media to get away from such behavior. No Google, no Meta, no Microsoft, etc. apparently no Smart devices either.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by hakube »

nerdsniper wrote: post #120

There's a $30,000 bounty set up for anyone who can patch the firmware to eliminate the ads. Please consider contributing additional donations against the matching funds. https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/samsung-familyhub-refrige...

I would assume AdGuard or Pi-hole can do the job? No need for potentially unsafe firmware patches

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by com2kid »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #372
margalabargala wrote: post #203

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Three phase consumer induction stoves are approximately 0% of the consumer induction stove market.

I'm pretty sure most of them just use a higher amp circuit. A 40 amp circuit at 230v is 9kW which is more than enough. I've also seen one particularly high end stove which used a battery to cover the extra power needed for the highest setting. Also means you could use it in a power outage.

I can easily use all the power my largest induction burner gives me on a 240v outlet. I really want one of those battery boost units for my next big purchase.

Honestly just browning 4 chicken thighs at once is too much for 240v. (My gas range couldn't do any better!)

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Post by LogicHound »

SoftTalker wrote: post #218
LogicHound wrote: post #65

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I got their monitors from the "before" they bunged smart into everything. 2 x 4K from 2016/2017. These things refuse to die and the picture is still good. Unfortunately all of my relatives love their phones.

I had a Samsung phone a few years ago. It had the usual un-removable crap that Android phones have, but it wasn’t bad otherwise.

I bought a pixel 6a and installed graphene os. I don't like their phones.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by MangoToupe »

qwerpy wrote: post #405
smoe wrote: post #216

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I switched away from Spotify a couple of years ago because of this, after having been a paying customer for around 10 years. But I fear all such services will eventually succumb to this, given just how much more lucrative ads can be compared to subscriptions.

I did the same, and switched to Apple Music. Soon after that, Apple Music started injecting their F1 movie soundtrack into suggested music for me. There really is no escape from this. They haven't done it since, so at least it's not as bad as what Spotify does. If I come across a good offline music player for iOS I will probably cancel my Apple Music subscription.

Is suggested music not already an ad? Why not just listen to your library?
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