Corporations are trying to hide job openings from US citizens

Post by Seattle3503 » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 7:33 AM UTC

DaSHacka wrote: post #281

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #247

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How dare that loser want a cushy, well paying job. This is America, that's not allowed for them. We like our workers desperate.

This, I cannot believe how all the most pro-workers rights people I know also support "open borders"-like philosophies. What do you think is going to happen to your bargaining power as an employee when your employer has an infinite workforce to draw from?

Post by cadamsdotcom » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 8:06 AM UTC

nomid wrote: post #382

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #353

It’s much more banal than it seems. Personal anecdote: I hired an exceptional H-1B worker to a role while I worked in SF, but was legally required to first advertise their role in 2 places. We put it in a 2am TV spot and a Modesto newspaper ad. But the whole thing was a legally required farce. We already knew from months of aggressive sourcing that no other qualified candidates existed - in fact we were over the moon…

I don't get it - if you were aggressively sourcing for months, presumably advertising your job via normal channels, wouldn't that already satisfy the requirement for perm? I keep seeing annecdotes about exceptional one of a kind talent, world class PhDs etc. I think we can all agree that majority of H1Bs we work with are not those people. They are regular devs without exceptional skills (not saying no skills, just no…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 8:13 AM UTC

whatever1 wrote: post #324

Taek wrote: post #315

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Or... those other parts of the economy increase salaries for skilled labor? If we can only bring 85,000 people into the country on one type of visa, doesn't it make sense to prioritize those that will bring the most value (tax revenue, in this case)? And if that's not enough people... raise the limit? And be confident that a raised limit is still keeping a high quality bar on entrants?

Option 1: you give a visa to a quant with 2M/y today’s salary Option 2: you give a visa to a PhD to work for 150k/year in a small biopharma startup that thinks it has the solution to cancer. This salary stacked ranking optimizes for today’s worth of work. Not its potential.

Post by cbarrick » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 8:16 AM UTC

epolanski wrote: post #192

back2dafucha wrote: post #112

Old news. This has been going on for decades. If you even look badly on youtube you will find corporate videos from "HR Consultants" teaching companies how to bury job listings so noone will be likely to find them. Your country sold you down the river 30 years ago.

> Your country sold you down the river 30 years ago. Jm2c but I think the harsh truth is that US while having a decently sized population of good software engineers, it is still nowhere near the required amount. Thus, many companies would rather give 150/200k to someone who's actually good at it and will be impressed by that money rather than some half assed US graduate who only went into SE because he wanted a cushy…

Post by wizzwizz4 » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 8:21 AM UTC

zjaffee wrote: post #412

1024core wrote: post #202

A lot of these problems could be solved if H1-B's were given out in order of salary (I think there's such a proposal going around recently). And by that I mean: something like a Dutch auction. Give H1-Bs to the top 85K paying jobs (maybe normalized to SoL in the region, I'm sure the BLS has some idea on how to do it). The lure of H1-Bs is the money savings, and the fact that if you're on an H1-B, you're practically a…

Except this isn't about H1B this is about the PERM process for EB2/EB3 greencards. The truth is we should be much more open to temporary work permits, and much less open to this sort of thing for granting permanent residency. Tons of people getting employment based green cards hold jobs that could easily be filled by an American.