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Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by Gud »

londons_explore wrote: post #374
12ian34 wrote: post #356

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not remotely worried about leaks, hacks, or sinister usage of your data?

I would far prefer the service use my data to work better and take a few privacy risks. People die all the time from cancer or car accidents. People very rarely die from data leaks. Some countries like Sweden make people's private financial data public information - and yet their people seem happier than ever. Perhaps privacy isn't as important as we think for a good society.

That financial data is very limited. Would it be just as acceptable if these companies knew where and what you purchased?

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Post by wolvesechoes »

behnamoh wrote: post #346
KoolKat23 wrote: post #327

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This data is useful for reinforcement learning. All the others do it. And most importantly, you can just opt-out.

Just because all the others do it doesn’t make it right. Many users chose Anthropic exactly because they were not like the others.

> Many users chose Anthropic exactly because they were not like the others.

Oh the naivety.

Sooner or later they all become the same, soon after "investors" or "shareholders" arrive.

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Post by weberer »

Arubis wrote: post #161
javierluraschi wrote: post #133

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https://grok.com

Worse by every measure.

What metrics are you looking at? Grok 4 outperforms Claude 4 Opus in the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models

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Post by smukherjee19 »

34679 wrote: post #393

It has a toggle for opting out, but the buttons available are "Accept" and "Not Now". So, if I toggle off but click "Accept", does that accept what I toggled or accept data sharing? If I click "Not Now", do they leave it set at the default Opt-in? I hate this shit and I'm cancelling now. https://imgur.com/a/oCw5eEp

I clicked "Accept" because I didn't want to deal with it later, especially given the new terms, and Claude training on new chats and resuming existing chats from September 28th,

but the "Accept" and "Not Now" are for the new terms of use.

So by toggling off and clicking "Accept", it will accept the toggled version. You can check the setting after accepting it at: https://claude.ai/settings/data-privacy-controls It's the "Help Improve Claude" button.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by KoolKat23 »

behnamoh wrote: post #346
KoolKat23 wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This data is useful for reinforcement learning. All the others do it. And most importantly, you can just opt-out.

Just because all the others do it doesn’t make it right. Many users chose Anthropic exactly because they were not like the others.

There's no reason to be shocked by the practice however.

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Post by wolvesechoes »

sneak wrote: post #262
thisOtterBeGood wrote: post #254

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This perfectly describes one of the biggest dillema with AI. Where does an AI company stop to utilize human knowledge it does not actually own. Where do they draw the line. Apparently it's possible there aren't any lines drawn at all.

You can’t own knowledge. Intellectual property is a legal fiction invented to prop up industries. You can no more own knowledge or information than you can own the number 2.

Property itself is a legal fiction. Every other right you enjoy is a legal fiction.

So what?

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by r2_pilot »

Between this(I already opted out but) and their work with Palantir, I definitely am not going to increase my subscription. It is making me reconsider paying, even using, a technology I've found transformative, and I expected(okay hoped) better from Anthropic.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by latexr »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #260
latexr wrote: post #194

So far, no one in this thread seems surprised (or is admitting to it). But I genuinely would like to know if someone is surprised. I’d also like to know what lead you to believe this wouldn’t happen and if there’s anyone in the LLM space you’d trust to not pull the same stunt (and why do you still believe that). I genuinely want to know and would like to have a productive conversation. I would like to identify what m…

A lot of people hold Anthropic as the "clean and ethical" AI company. They're not power hungry, they are focused on safety. Their aesthetic is cool modern valley vibes. Well grounded and in touch. They don't have the stench of Altman or the ominous presence of the tech giants. They make claude code which is the darling LLM of pure souled silicon valley.

> They're not power hungry

That is an interesting claim. What makes you believe that? And does this announcement shake that belief in any way?

> Their aesthetic is cool modern valley vibes.

Does looking cool equal being trustworthy? Doesn’t feel like it should. On the contrary, from observation on HN it seems the websites which look pretty bare bones (none from an LLM company) tend to be perceived as more trustworthy (i.e. “this hacker cares about The Thing™, not trying to sell you a product”).

> pure souled silicon valley.

Could you expand on what this means?

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by behnamoh »

wolvesechoes wrote: post #412
behnamoh wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because all the others do it doesn’t make it right. Many users chose Anthropic exactly because they were not like the others.

> Many users chose Anthropic exactly because they were not like the others. Oh the naivety. Sooner or later they all become the same, soon after "investors" or "shareholders" arrive.

> Sooner or later they all become the same, soon after "investors" or "shareholders" arrive.

They already arrived. Google was one of the main investors of Anthro.

Re: Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by latexr »

SoftTalker wrote: post #323
latexr wrote: post #194

So far, no one in this thread seems surprised (or is admitting to it). But I genuinely would like to know if someone is surprised. I’d also like to know what lead you to believe this wouldn’t happen and if there’s anyone in the LLM space you’d trust to not pull the same stunt (and why do you still believe that). I genuinely want to know and would like to have a productive conversation. I would like to identify what m…

I believe it shouldn't happen. I'm not surprised. There is no web company (LLM or otherwise) I trust completely, let alone any of the major ad-funded ones, or the ones who are not yet profitable and desperately searching for ways to become so.

I agree with you, and I think the thread does too so far. Which is why I’m specifically seeking those who disagree, to understand the why.

I don’t think there’ll be many (if any) who think this should’ve happened, but I do expect some may be surprised (and disappointed).

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