4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

Post by YetAnotherNick » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 5:45 AM UTC

Kazik24 wrote: post #281

chii wrote: post #210

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> still have a unified internet across the globe. which might be the end goal - the internet, with freedom of communication, is a way that the plebs can organize and resist authoritarianism. And as countries are growing increasingly authoritarian (and i include UK here), they may be planning on preventing the old free internet that has enabled so much. So as technologists here at HN, there needs to be a pre-emptive s…

Applications based on QUIC and/or P2P might be an option. QUIC is designed to not be as easy to filter as TCP + TLS. But then right now it can be blocked by just blocking UDP. But if majority of the internet would use QUIC then blocking UDP would mean blocking most of the internet so the governments wouldn't be so eager do nationwide firewalls (hopefully).

Post by GeoAtreides » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 6:22 AM UTC

xoa wrote: post #394

GeoAtreides wrote: post #108

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It's not elitist to remark that people tech skills are atrophying. The zoomers literally have memes about how bad are at tech stuff. Setting a VPN is 100% not trivial, I know that because I recently set up a wireguard vpn on a VPS. Not impossible, sure, but out of the reach for a normal person. Sure, one can ask a techie friend (if one's has a techie friend capable of self-hosting a VPN). So now instead of the gov ba…

> It's not elitist to remark that people tech skills are atrophying. It is elitist though to not go into why that's the case and instead just assume it's because, what, people are dropping in IQ? A lot of (though not all granted) the cause boils down to the same reason as mechanical skills (engine repair and such) atrophying: lack of need. Things have gotten very polished for the average use case. Most people don't n…

Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 7:35 AM UTC

chii wrote: post #210

speedylight wrote: post #37

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I think eventually we will reach a point where laws like the Online Safety Act become so prevalent that it is basically impossible to comply with all of them simultaneously and still have a unified internet across the globe. I wouldn’t be surprised if in 10 years or so every country has its own version of the internet only intended for their own people.

> still have a unified internet across the globe. which might be the end goal - the internet, with freedom of communication, is a way that the plebs can organize and resist authoritarianism. And as countries are growing increasingly authoritarian (and i include UK here), they may be planning on preventing the old free internet that has enabled so much. So as technologists here at HN, there needs to be a pre-emptive s…

Post by SG- » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 8:33 AM UTC

billy99k wrote: post #259

The UK started arresting people that posted differing opinions a few years ago. There were no articles or outcry and this is what it has led to.

Post by Kazik24 » Sat, Aug 23, 2025, 9:01 AM UTC

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #411

Kazik24 wrote: post #281

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Applications based on QUIC and/or P2P might be an option. QUIC is designed to not be as easy to filter as TCP + TLS. But then right now it can be blocked by just blocking UDP. But if majority of the internet would use QUIC then blocking UDP would mean blocking most of the internet so the governments wouldn't be so eager do nationwide firewalls (hopefully).

QUIC or any other technology still needs domain name and both the domain name ownership and DNS could be blocked by governments. Also IP could be blocked.